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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Its not geographically Western Europe so Roman heritage wouldnt change much either way.
    Relevance? Besides, haven't you ever heard of Moscow referred to as "the Third Rome?"
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Relevance? Besides, haven't you ever heard of Moscow referred to as "the Third Rome?"
    Yeah, but that was a long time ago, and I mean a long time.

    Now I'd call Moscow "the Third Mexico City".

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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by stalin_was_a_nice_being View Post
    Yeah, but that was a long time ago, and I mean a long time.

    Now I'd call Moscow "the Third Mexico City".
    However, it is evidence that the Russian Czars, beginning with Ivan III, considered themselves to be the legitimate heirs of Roman heritage as passed on from Constantinople, the "New Rome".
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    However, it is evidence that the Russian Czars, beginning with Ivan III, considered themselves to be the legitimate heirs of Roman heritage as passed on from Constantinople, the "New Rome".
    yeah, but the heritage ended with Mikhail Romanov who wasn't related to the Caesar.

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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Relevance? Besides, haven't you ever heard of Moscow referred to as "the Third Rome?"
    Im not referring to Russia. Im talking about European countries with a lack of Roman heritage.
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Djoop View Post
    Asia is also a continent Kaya and if you're in it..., well?
    Your Asian. I dont know how it is in America, but Asians are Asians - not just the Chinese.

    I'm a simpleton, I googled Russia and found this on wiki:

    The nation's history began with that of the East Slavs, who emerged as a recognizable group in Europe between the 3rd and 8th centuries AD. Founded and ruled by a noble Viking warrior class and their descendants, the first East Slavic state, Kievan Rus', arose in the 9th century and adopted Orthodox Christianity from the Byzantine Empire in 988 , beginning the synthesis of Byzantine and Slavic cultures that defined Russian culture for the next millennium. Kievan Rus' ultimately disintegrated and the lands were divided into many small feudal states.
    Seems soviet Russia was Kievan Rus' the II.
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Your Asian. I dont know how it is in America, but Asians are Asians - not just the Chinese.
    Luckily, China doesn't extend to Europe, because these discusions are wearing me out.

    Seems soviet Russia was Kievan Rus' the II.
    I don't get it..

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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by stalin_was_a_nice_being View Post
    yeah, but the heritage ended with Mikhail Romanov who wasn't related to the Caesar.
    Huh??? You need to explain that. Since Vladimir brought Russia into the Christian fold, the Russians tried to emulate the Roman Empire. They got waylaid by the Mongol Yoke, but Ivan III made a conscious effort to re-establish that link by marrying into the family of the recently defunt Roman Empire and declaring Moscow the Third Rome. So, to claim that there is no Roman heritage present in Russian history or tradition is based on historical ignorance.
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Huh??? You need to explain that. Since Vladimir brought Russia into the Christian fold, the Russians tried to emulate the Roman Empire. They got waylaid by the Mongol Yoke, but Ivan III made a conscious effort to re-establish that link by marrying into the family of the recently defunt Roman Empire and declaring Moscow the Third Rome. So, to claim that there is no Roman heritage present in Russian history or tradition is based on historical ignorance.
    actually I was making bs up the whole time.....so yeah.

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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    The most powerful country in Europe, hmmmmm; that's like asking which tic on a dog's ass is most powerful.
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