View Poll Results: What is the Most Powerful Nation in Europe?

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  • Bundesrepublik Deutschland (Federal Republic of Germany)

    58 45.67%
  • United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

    46 36.22%
  • Cinquième République de la France (Fifth Republic of France)

    12 9.45%
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    11 8.66%
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Where do crooked businesses flee to? The place with most regulations?

    NO. Thats the proof.
    Where does business flourish? In the most oppressive of all markets, where business and inovention are punished and regulated?

    No. That's the proof.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Where do people get exploited the most? The market with the strictest labour laws?

    No. Thats proof.
    Where are people best able to engage in the system? To compete for themselves and build for themselves their own wealth? Where are people allowed to fairly compete amongst each other, bolstering labor and production? The places with the most restrictive, socialist of all laws? Where people can't be fired and young people have problems getting jobs?

    No. That's the proof.


    Europe by far has the broadest, strictest, best and most regulations concerning business and corporate behaviour and relations between corporations and labours.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    In addition, Europe is in the top when it comes to global firms, production, exports, manufacturing, high tech, implementation and so fourth. What more proof do you need than the simple reality seen without "rose coloured glasses"?
    In addition, America is one of the largest producers of high tech along with exporting large amounts of agricultural goods across the world. What more proof do you need than the simple reality seen by eyes unclouded by hate.
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Where does business flourish? In the most oppressive of all markets, where business and inovention are punished and regulated?

    No. That's the proof.
    West European countries are market leaders in all segment, we have the biggest global companies. Europe is quite innovative, but yes lagging behind the US. That is the only US strenght over Europe, invention and innovation. But that will turn around with time also. To answer your question however, business is flourishing in all of eastern Europe, north and south. Business is and has for a long time flourished in places like Ireland, Spain.. All of Europe is flourishing for business actually, and our business regulations and ease of doing business is improving every year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Where are people best able to engage in the system?
    What do you mean? I suppose I should answer something ordinary like creating a business, being part of creating a business, taking part in politics, or all other areas that you would say about the US. Mention one area where US people better can engage in the system than Europe. Perhaps you dont know it, but Europe is not only the freest market in the world, but also the best regulated one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    To compete for themselves and build for themselves their own wealth?
    We have many billionaires, millionaires and so fourth, just like America. Actually I believe even with our socialist policies we about equal Americans in billionaires and millionaires.

    Forbes.com - Business News, Financial News, Stock Market Analysis, Technology & Global Headline News if you dont believe me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Where are people allowed to fairly compete amongst each other, bolstering labor and production?
    Everywhere. But we are also free to take hollidays without risk of getting fired, and we are allowed to work in a safe environment with strong labour laws and protection. The European labour market is far more flexible than you believe. We have a minimum of hollidays we have to take every year and those are PAID. We also have a maximum of hours we can work in a row, in a week, in a month, a year an so fourth. We actually have the most generous system, while at the same time at least, if not far better businesses than in the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The places with the most restrictive, socialist of all laws?
    What is wrong with helping the weak? Should we just throw them on the streets like Americans? Should we just exploit people and use them as human garbage afterwards, like you even do your heroes(vietnam veterans who fought for the country)?

    What is wrong with paying unemployment, what is wrong with mandatory health care for everyone? In addition to mandatory health care, people are also free to choose private health care. Yes we have that also.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Where people can't be fired and young people have problems getting jobs?

    No. That's the proof.
    On the contrary people CAN be fired, they just have to be payed. Companies cant just fire people as they want, if it was like that, it would suck big time.

    European under 25 unemployment stands at 20.7%, while American under 25 unemployment stands at 19.1. What is your point? Not a dramatic difference in my opinion.

    http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/cac...2009-AP-EN.PDF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    In addition, America is one of the largest producers of high tech along with exporting large amounts of agricultural goods across the world.
    So what? Europe is also that.
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    So what? Europe is also that.
    Not at the scale America is. Missy. Get real. Europe isnt all that.
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    West European countries are market leaders in all segment, we have the biggest global companies. Europe is quite innovative, but yes lagging behind the US. That is the only US strenght over Europe, invention and innovation. But that will turn around with time also. To answer your question however, business is flourishing in all of eastern Europe, north and south. Business is and has for a long time flourished in places like Ireland, Spain.. All of Europe is flourishing for business actually, and our business regulations and ease of doing business is improving every year.
    All of Europe is suffering just as much as the US during this time, and I have serious doubts Europe could become energy dependent if it wanted to. The US has the potential to become an energy giant it doesnt want to.

    What do you mean? I suppose I should answer something ordinary like creating a business, being part of creating a business, taking part in politics, or all other areas that you would say about the US. Mention one area where US people better can engage in the system than Europe. Perhaps you dont know it, but Europe is not only the freest market in the world, but also the best regulated one.
    There may be a lot of regulation but that doesn't mean that it makes it one of the best.


    We have many billionaires, millionaires and so fourth, just like America. Actually I believe even with our socialist policies we about equal Americans in billionaires and millionaires.
    Good because Europe as a whole has 700+ million people and the US just a little over 300million.
    Everywhere. But we are also free to take hollidays without risk of getting fired, and we are allowed to work in a safe environment with strong labour laws and protection. The European labour market is far more flexible than you believe. We have a minimum of hollidays we have to take every year and those are PAID. We also have a maximum of hours we can work in a row, in a week, in a month, a year an so fourth. We actually have the most generous system, while at the same time at least, if not far better businesses than in the US.
    That is somewhere Europe has us beat.
    What is wrong with helping the weak? Should we just throw them on the streets like Americans? Should we just exploit people and use them as human garbage afterwards, like you even do your heroes(vietnam veterans who fought for the country)?
    No we should, and again Europe has us beat here.
    What is wrong with paying unemployment, what is wrong with mandatory health care for everyone? In addition to mandatory health care, people are also free to choose private health care. Yes we have that also.
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    So what? Europe is also that.
    Not on the scale of America, and America has secret research going on much much more advance than whatever the Europeans have. Plus, we still have the ability to produce more food and more natural resources, the same can't be said for Europe.

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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    I couldn't help but laugh that there is this whole debate on which continent is better the whole US or all of Europe. It is impossible to compare all what I do know is that we in the US haven't reached our potential and I can't say the same for the Europeans. Their through

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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Russia.

    DUh.

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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    France because Sarkozy actually has a spine, and that's what France always needed.
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by stalin_was_a_nice_being View Post
    Germany has a STRONGER ARMY. It could easily defeat GB if it were 1v1.
    But GB has a nuclear arsenal.
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

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    But GB has a nuclear arsenal.

    But America holds the other key. A Marshall Plan Mk2 won't work if Europe is a smoking RADIOACTIVE ruin. Germany wins.
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    Re: What is the most powerful nation in Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    But America holds the other key. A Marshall Plan Mk2 won't work if Europe is a smoking RADIOACTIVE ruin. Germany wins.
    Not if Obama is in office.
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