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Thread: Who Better Understands What Liberals Think

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    Re: Who Better Understands What Liberals Think

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I think that is fairly common. I believe a good number of people who are liberal when they are young, become more conservative as they age.
    Yep. I guess you missed "I KNOW what liberals believe" encrypted in my response?

    I'm so tricky!

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    Re: Who Better Understands What Liberals Think

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This thread turned stupid fast...
    That's usually the case when liberals do most of the talking.
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    Re: Who Better Understands What Liberals Think

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    but what makes you a liberal is not what makes me a liberal........which is why no one knows how "libbos" think, despite their claims otherwise.
    What your thoughts are is unimportant. What is important is that I understand the outcome of your liberal policies when they are made into law. That I know, and that I don't like.
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    Re: Who Better Understands What Liberals Think

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I believe in regards to an ideology as a whole, general a liberal is more likely to know their ideology and what it thinks better than a conservative but this is not concrete. IE a studied political scientist that happens to be conservative likely knows more about the liberal view point than say joe blow on the couch after a long day of union work who knows he votes democrat pretty much because they keep his union benefits going.
    Funny, that's me.

    I'm a pretty Conservative guy though, huh?

    I see the effects of liberal policies up close and personal on a daily basis. I see how the philosophy squashes the incentive to be productive & compels the individual to make irrational self-sacrifice of their time & labor for the sake of "the group."

    IMO, a lot of Conservatives are like me & have already seen both sides.

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    Re: Who Better Understands What Liberals Think

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Conservatives in general have no desire to listen to the ideas from the other side.....if they make no attempt to listen, they will never understand....
    This goes both ways.Liberals in general tend to do the same.
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    Re: Who Better Understands What Liberals Think

    If you really want to understand how liberals think, go to a bookstore, look for the politics section, look under C, and pick up everything you can see written by Ann Coulter.

    But there is no other book that exposes the liberal worldview better than Ann's blockbuster best-seller: Godless: The Church of Liberalism.

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    Re: Who Better Understands What Liberals Think

    Quote Originally Posted by K-1 View Post
    If you really want to understand how liberals think, go to a bookstore, look for the politics section, look under C, and pick up everything you can see written by Ann Coulter.

    But there is no other book that exposes the liberal worldview better than Ann's blockbuster best-seller: Godless: The Church of Liberalism.
    One must wonder if you are serious or a mere caricature of the worst of the GOP deliberately out to make Republicans look mindbogglingly unreasonable.
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    Re: Who Better Understands What Liberals Think

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am sure they are thrown back at conservatives, but I understand what the Hobo is talking about, and why he posted it as he did. I don't I guess notice the examples against conservatives, since it's not telling me what I think, and inaccurately, and it's getting to be epidemic. I get told almost daily what I and us damn "libbos" think, and it never, not once is accurate. It's hair-pullingly aggravating, which is probably part of the goal of it.

    On a further note, "liberalism", as it is today, represents a pretty broad spectrum of people. Hobo and I do not agree on every issue, and yet we are both liberals. I am very law and order, very anti illegal immigrant, anti gun control to a large extent, strong national defense, and am adamant about the troubles with a large deficit, yet I am still, overall, a liberal, and fairly far to the left. Using a blanket argument like "you libbos think..." is just dismissive, and inaccurate, even if it is in general close to what many liberals do think.

    Somehow we need to get back to arguing against points, not labels.
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    Re: Who Better Understands What Liberals Think

    Quote Originally Posted by K-1 View Post
    If you really want to understand how liberals think, go to a bookstore, look for the politics section, look under C, and pick up everything you can see written by Ann Coulter.

    But there is no other book that exposes the liberal worldview better than Ann's blockbuster best-seller: Godless: The Church of Liberalism.
    are you suggesting that the GOP is NOT Godless?
    It may be the preferred party of the bible thumpers, but it is too often too far from the teachings of Christ.
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    Re: Who Better Understands What Liberals Think

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    A lot of the conservatives I know are parrots, sqawking the words of Rush, Beck, etc. I doubt they understand what they think, much less what liberals think...
    Exactly.

    This should not be "who better understand what liberals think", but "who better understand what conservatives think".

    What it really comes down to is definitions. What is a "liberal" for the right wing? As far as I can see from comments from right wing politicians in the US and these boards, a liberal is anyone that disagrees with them, regardless of where on the political spectrum that person is. Even today, Bush is being more and more lined up for the "liberal" tag. Even McCain cant feel himself safe from the "liberal" tag often.. then again he is so old that he cant remember his own opinions for the most part.

    We have seen time and time again, Republicans being "too moderate" and being forced out of the party and the far right applauding this. Like it or not, most of these Republicans dont have a leftist policy in their body for the most part, but they are not "conservative" enough (what ever that means) for the far right and hence they are "liberal" or a RINO.

    Plus what is a conservative? Is a libertarian a conservative or not? Or is a libertarian just a new term for conservatives that cant acknowledge the last decade of conservative miss-management? And who is "conservative enough" to be a conservative? I know fully what a "liberal" aka a left wing person is.

    It is ironic how on these boards we discuss so much about "the failings of liberalism" and similar topics of liberalism, when in fact it is conservative politics that is in deep deep trouble, and liberalism (both the left leaning kind and the true meaning of the word) are the ones flourishing. We had a few decades of "conservative" thinking and what did it get for the US. 15+ real unemployment, a credit crisis, a few wars and massive debt.

    So how can Conservatives understand what liberals think, when Conservatives cant understand what they think themselves?
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