View Poll Results: Legitimate Uses for Eminent Domain

Voters
27. You may not vote on this poll
  • Roads and Bridges

    25 92.59%
  • Pipelines

    21 77.78%
  • Railroads

    22 81.48%
  • Public Waterways

    22 81.48%
  • Schools

    17 62.96%
  • Property Tax Enhancement

    11 40.74%
  • Prisons

    13 48.15%
  • Slum Abatement

    14 51.85%
  • To Create Employment

    12 44.44%
  • Other (Specify)

    13 48.15%
Multiple Choice Poll.
Results 1 to 6 of 6

Thread: Legitimate uses for eminent domain

  1. #1
    Educator ronpaulvoter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Last Seen
    07-18-16 @ 04:25 PM
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    627

    Post Legitimate uses for eminent domain

    What items do you feel are legitimate for condemnation by eminent domain?

    This poll is multiple choice. Select whatever is appropriate. Explain your viewpoints.
    Last edited by ronpaulvoter; 11-25-09 at 11:23 AM.

  2. #2
    Traditionalist
    phattonez's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Last Seen
    12-05-17 @ 03:45 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    20,072

    Re: Legitimate uses for eminent domain

    None. Eminent domain eliminates a voluntary agreement requirement that is essential for free market transactions. As such, I can't defend it.

    Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24
    "True law is right reason in agreement with nature . . . Whoever is disobedient is fleeing from himself and denying his human nature [and] will suffer the worst penalties . . ." - Cicero

  3. #3
    Sage
    jamesrage's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    A place where common sense exists
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:00 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    31,078

    Re: Legitimate uses for eminent domain

    I say public roads and public schools(K-12 public schools).Those should be the only reason why eminent domain should be used if it is to be used at all.It should be double or triple fair market price and the city or state should assist those property owners in finding new homes or perhaps relocating their houses. Stealing property from one property to give to someone else should be illegal.When you forcefully and physically deprive someone of their property, that is stealing even if you claim to give them fair market price. Its no different than a thief shoplifting a Cd from a store and claiming he didn't steal it because he left twenty cents on the ground. If they really need the property that bad then they will pay the owner what he or she wants.
    Last edited by jamesrage; 11-25-09 at 12:00 PM.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

  4. #4
    User
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Last Seen
    01-16-10 @ 03:37 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    36

    Re: Legitimate uses for eminent domain

    One of your responces is wrong.

    PUBLIC WATERWAYS are already public. No need for eminent domain.

    The use is common for road expansions and the like. But the big thing now is to condem property for the new "development". This should be totally illegal, and the supreme court was stupid with there ruling.

  5. #5
    Anti-Hypocrite
    molten_dragon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Southeast Michigan
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:44 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    9,351

    Re: Legitimate uses for eminent domain

    Quote Originally Posted by buster9 View Post
    One of your responces is wrong.

    PUBLIC WATERWAYS are already public. No need for eminent domain.
    I think he's suggesting that eminent domain might be needed to build a public waterway.

    In my opinion, for eminent domain to be used properly, 2 conditions need to be met.

    1. The project which is planned will be be owned by and serve the public.
    2. The location for which eminent domain is considered is important to the project's completion/success.

    So the only choices that fit those criteria are schools, public roads/bridges, and public waterways.
    If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day.

    If you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

  6. #6
    long standing member
    justabubba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:50 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    36,173

    Re: Legitimate uses for eminent domain

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    What items do you feel are legitimate for condemnation by eminent domain?

    This poll is multiple choice. Select whatever is appropriate. Explain your viewpoints.
    any public purpose
    however, some criteria must be met
    first, the public must be willing to acquire its access to the real property by paying 200% of its current fair market value
    that 100% premium due to the process of eminent domain might be sufficient for the government to identify alternative locations which can meet the project needs without the forced taking of private property
    second, the transfer of interest must be in the form of a lease, such that the title never passes to the government. instead, under a leasehold interest, without the right to sublease, until perpetuity, recission of the property rights would return to the original owner at such time that the pubic use is discontinued
    that is what would prevent the government from acquiring the property by eminent domain from a reluctant owner in order to transfer it - or its use - to a private entity

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •