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  • Theodore Roosevelt

    3 1.90%
  • Woodrow Wilson

    12 7.59%
  • Herbert Hoover

    18 11.39%
  • Franklin Delano Roosevelt

    26 16.46%
  • Harry Truman

    1 0.63%
  • Lyndon Baines Johnson

    3 1.90%
  • Richard Nixon

    15 9.49%
  • James Earl Carter

    38 24.05%
  • William Jefferson Clinton

    6 3.80%
  • Other (Specify)

    36 22.78%
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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i think it's because bush's complete failure transcends time and space.
    Wikipedia isn't a reliable source, considering anyone can either edit or enter false information on this site. Currently Woodrow Wilson is ranked the worst, for this type of judgement to be passed, usually takes about 10 years or more.

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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Reagan was not all bad. Remember his glorious victory in Granada?
    Did he win the Alhambra Half Marathon in 1983? Give us a clue.
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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    I didn't know JFK was a Michael Jackson fan.

    And shame on JFK, how many endangered elephants were killed to build that ivory tower?

    Yeah, JFK was one of the more incompetent presidents, but there's so many to choose from, he's not the worst.
    He was responsible for the lose of lot of good Men. Many of them my friends. ---then he changed us from a Majority rule society, to a minority rule society---which is just backwards.
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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    He was responsible for the lose of lot of good Men. Many of them my friends. ---then he changed us from a Majority rule society, to a minority rule society---which is just backwards.
    I thought you were about 40 or so...
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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Going by the list only
    in order

    Herbert Hoover
    Richard Nixon
    James Earl Carter
    William Jefferson Clinton
    Lyndon Baines Johnson
    Woodrow Wilson
    Harry Truman
    Theodore Roosevelt
    Franklin Delano Roosevelt

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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Of course it's Clinton.

    He policies and decisions led to our current situation - and tossed our livelihoods into the toilet in the process.

    I think there comes a point at which you have to not mull over the past - say, after 50 years - but his presidency was recently enough where we're still feeling the direct results.
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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Of course it's Clinton.

    He policies and decisions led to our current situation - and tossed our livelihoods into the toilet in the process.

    I think there comes a point at which you have to not mull over the past - say, after 50 years - but his presidency was recently enough where we're still feeling the direct results.
    Well, you are wrong. It was Bush's home ownership policies that led to the financial collapse and the destruction of the banking system.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/business/21admin.html

    “The Bush administration took a lot of pride that homeownership had reached historic highs,” Mr. Snow said in an interview. “But what we forgot in the process was that it has to be done in the context of people being able to afford their house. We now realize there was a high cost.”

    For much of the Bush presidency, the White House was preoccupied by terrorism and war; on the economic front, its pressing concerns were cutting taxes and privatizing Social Security. The housing market was a bright spot: ever-rising home values kept the economy humming, as owners drew down on their equity to buy consumer goods and pack their children off to college.

    Lawrence B. Lindsey, Mr. Bush’s first chief economics adviser, said there was little impetus to raise alarms about the proliferation of easy credit that was helping Mr. Bush meet housing goals.

    “No one wanted to stop that bubble,” Mr. Lindsey said. “It would have conflicted with the president’s own policies.”

    Remarks by the President on Homeownership - HUD

    The goal is, everybody who wants to own a home has got a shot at doing so. The problem is we have what we call a homeownership gap in America. Three-quarters of Anglos own their homes, and yet less than 50 percent of African Americans and Hispanics own homes. That ownership gap signals that something might be wrong in the land of plenty. And we need to do something about it.

    We are here in Washington, D.C. to address problems. So I've set this goal for the country. We want 5.5 million more homeowners by 2010 -- million more minority homeowners by 2010. (Applause.) Five-and-a-half million families by 2010 will own a home. That is our goal. It is a realistic goal. But it's going to mean we're going to have to work hard to achieve the goal, all of us. And by all of us, I mean not only the federal government, but the private sector, as well.

    And so I want to, one, encourage you to do everything you can to work in a realistic, smart way to get this done. I repeat, we're here for a reason. And part of the reason is to make this dream extend everywhere.

    I'm going to do my part by setting the goal, by reminding people of the goal, by heralding the goal, and by calling people into action, both the federal level, state level, local level, and in the private sector. (Applause.)

    And so what are the barriers that we can deal with here in Washington? Well, probably the single barrier to first-time homeownership is high down payments. People take a look at the down payment, they say that's too high, I'm not buying. They may have the desire to buy, but they don't have the wherewithal to handle the down payment. We can deal with that. And so I've asked Congress to fully fund an American Dream down payment fund which will help a low-income family to qualify to buy, to buy. (Applause.)

    We believe when this fund is fully funded and properly administered, which it will be under the Bush administration, that over 40,000 families a year -- 40,000 families a year -- will be able to realize the dream we want them to be able to realize, and that's owning their own home. (Applause.)

    The second barrier to ownership is the lack of affordable housing. There are neighborhoods in America where you just can't find a house that's affordable to purchase, and we need to deal with that problem. The best way to do so, I think, is to set up a single family affordable housing tax credit to the tune of $2.4 billion over the next five years to encourage affordable single family housing in inner-city America. (Applause.)

    The third problem is the fact that the rules are too complex. People get discouraged by the fine print on the contracts. They take a look and say, well, I'm not so sure I want to sign this. There's too many words. (Laughter.) There's too many pitfalls. So one of the things that the Secretary is going to do is he's going to simplify the closing documents and all the documents that have to deal with homeownership.

    It is essential that we make it easier for people to buy a home, not harder. And in order to do so, we've got to educate folks. Some of us take homeownership for granted, but there are people -- obviously, the home purchase is a significant, significant decision by our fellow Americans. We've got people who have newly arrived to our country, don't know the customs. We've got people in certain neighborhoods that just aren't really sure what it means to buy a home. And it seems like to us that it makes sense to have a outreach program, an education program that explains the whys and wherefores of buying a house, to make it easier for people to not only understand the legal implications and ramifications, but to make it easier to understand how to get a good loan.
    Last edited by USA_1; 02-08-10 at 10:10 AM.
    "This Administration will constantly strive to promote an ownership society in America. We want more people owning their own home. It is in our national interest that more people own their own home. After all, if you own your own home, you have a vital stake in the future of our country."" GWB

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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Why isn't Reagan on this list since he started us down the path that is causing our current economic problems?

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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Why isn't Reagan on this list since he started us down the path that is causing our current economic problems?
    People seem to forget that, and all of the other terrible things he did as President. Deregulation started with him. Since then, WH Bush, Clinton, and Bush all continued in the path that he started.

    Seems that time has been good to Reagan... I'm hearing stories that as President, he lept tall buildings in a single bound.
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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    People seem to forget that, and all of the other terrible things he did as President. Deregulation started with him. Since then, WH Bush, Clinton, and Bush all continued in the path that he started.

    Seems that time has been good to Reagan... I'm hearing stories that as President, he lept tall buildings in a single bound.
    Yeah, they forget about the savings and loan collapse and bailout, the Iran contra affair, the 240 marines murdered in Lebanon, the October surprise, and all the indictments and convictions of Reagans officials.
    When something is repeated often and long enough people believe it.


    And it was Reagan that popularized deficit spending and he invented "the bailout"

    The savings and loan crisis of the 1980s and 1990s (commonly referred to as the S&L crisis) was the failure of 747 savings and loan associations (S&Ls aka thrifts). A Savings and Loan is a financial institution in the United States that accepts savings deposits and makes mortgage, car and other personal loans to individual members. The ultimate cost of the crisis is estimated to have totaled around $160.1 billion, about $124.6 billion of which was directly paid for by the US government—that is, the US taxpayer, either directly or through charges on their savings and loan accounts[1]—which contributed to the large budget deficits of the early 1990s..
    Last edited by USA_1; 02-08-10 at 11:24 AM.
    "This Administration will constantly strive to promote an ownership society in America. We want more people owning their own home. It is in our national interest that more people own their own home. After all, if you own your own home, you have a vital stake in the future of our country."" GWB

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