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  • Theodore Roosevelt

    3 1.90%
  • Woodrow Wilson

    12 7.59%
  • Herbert Hoover

    18 11.39%
  • Franklin Delano Roosevelt

    26 16.46%
  • Harry Truman

    1 0.63%
  • Lyndon Baines Johnson

    3 1.90%
  • Richard Nixon

    15 9.49%
  • James Earl Carter

    38 24.05%
  • William Jefferson Clinton

    6 3.80%
  • Other (Specify)

    36 22.78%
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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Too good to even respond to my posts huh? Nice.

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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I've explained why I believe that Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan violated their oaths and subverted the U.S. Constitution. They were more than merely criminal in their acts, they were traitorous.

    I think at the least some of those who voted ‘James Earl Carter’ as the worst president of the 20th century, namely, Agent Ferris, apdst, bicycleman, Dav, EpicDude86, Goshin, LadyLiberty, LaMidRighter, Missouri Mule, Partisan, Porchev, ptif219, Redress, Vader, should explain their vote and help us understand just what acts he committed that in their eyes causes him to deserve this scourge.
    Hi! Since you decided to name me, let me point out that if you had read the thread before posting, you would have discovered exactly why I chose Carter. Is there some reason you cannot be bothered to read and expect me to repeat myself? Is there some reason you have a hard time accepting that in a thread asking our opinions, some have a different opinion, and use a different method to decide worst?
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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Hi! Since you decided to name me, let me point out that if you had read the thread before posting, you would have discovered exactly why I chose Carter. Is there some reason you cannot be bothered to read and expect me to repeat myself? Is there some reason you have a hard time accepting that in a thread asking our opinions, some have a different opinion, and use a different method to decide worst?
    You're right! I overlooked your posted reasoning. Sorry about that. So am I right that your only offering regarding your pick is as follows?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    … I think my pick would have to be Carter, if just because he was such a disappointment. He was of my party, and we had high hopes for him, but ended up being incredibly ineffective.
    That's it: he disappointed you. He wasn't a criminal mastermind like Nixon. He didn't violate his oath and subvert the Constitution like Reagan.

    Your only expansion on your disappointment with him was that you had “high hopes” and he was “incredibly ineffective.” Carter was ineffectual in your eyes despite being a principled leader throughout his tenure who was the last president to sign an energy plan for this country, righted our Latin America relations and brought about the only Middle East peace agreement of the modern era (a peace agreement that continues to this day and has never been violated).

    Fine. Got it. Thanks, Redress. That makes it all clear why Carter was the worst president of the 20th century in your opinion. Sorry, I asked you to elaborate on your decision. It was all so obvious.
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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    You're right! I overlooked your posted reasoning. Sorry about that. So am I right that your only offering regarding your pick is as follows?



    That's it: he disappointed you. He wasn't a criminal mastermind like Nixon. He didn't violate his oath and subvert the Constitution like Reagan.

    Your only expansion on your disappointment with him was that you had “high hopes” and he was “incredibly ineffective.” Carter was ineffectual in your eyes despite being a principled leader throughout his tenure who was the last president to sign an energy plan for this country, righted our Latin America relations and brought about the only Middle East peace agreement of the modern era (a peace agreement that continues to this day and has never been violated).

    Fine. Got it. Thanks, Redress. That makes it all clear why Carter was the worst president of the 20th century in your opinion. Sorry, I asked you to elaborate on your decision. It was all so obvious.
    By my standards, I chose him. I expected little from Reagan, and got little. Nixon I was just a little kid when he was in office, and his crimes did not really anger me. Carter, who I agree was principled I had high hopes for. I thought he would move the country in a better direction, and he did not. I expected Reagan to move the country in ways I did not like, and that is what I got. Carter I expected more from, and did not get.

    You may not like the reasons I gave, but they are as valid as the reasons you give to explain your opinion. There are no concrete metrics to measure the quality of a president, none. So we pick what matters to us, and what matters to me is how they matched my expectations. That is a perfectly valid measure of how "good" a president is. It's time to come off your high horse and accept that others have opinions that don't match up to yours exactly, and not get all upset when they express those opinions.
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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Nixon, no contest.
    It's time for a revolution in our country. Not a revolution forged with guns and bombs but a revolution forged of compassion and altruism. A revolution that extends a hand to those who don't have and who cannot. A revolution that makes Health Care available to all those in the US.

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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Why is Clinton not soaring in this poll?

    Oh yeah, there is something called "liberalism" that champions degeneracy.

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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Quote Originally Posted by K-1 View Post
    Why is Clinton not soaring in this poll?

    Oh yeah, there is something called "liberalism" that champions degeneracy.
    I am proud to champion degeneracy! Degenerates unite! We are the future, with a fag in every kitchen, smut on every TV, joints in every pocket, and condoms in every school. Oh, the the bible will be banned. Fear us!
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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Do you know what the 20th century is?
    It's a disease called Bush on the Brain.
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    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i think it's because bush's complete failure transcends time and space.
    Were you born in the 90's or something?
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    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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    Re: Worst 20th Century President

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    You mean that we actually take the constitution literally as it's supposed to be read?
    If it's "supposed" to be read that way, how come nobody has ever read it that way?


    If you looked hard enough you could likely find an example of every single president "violating" the Constitution by modern-day libertarian standards.

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