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“The only real nation is humanity” ~ Paul Farmer
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"
Cicero Marcus Tullius
Reasoning for the justification of slavery varied in time and place. Sometimes, the Enlightenment's emphasis on science, on logic, on order, created the perfect justification for the character of the American slave institution. Other times, the Enlightenment was the source of freedom. Same with religion. It had its liberalizing moments, and its restrictive moments.
On a side note: you could also take aim against your claim that it was merely fashionable to oppose slavery, as prior to that moment it was enforced. Again, it depended upon time, place, and to an extent, person. One could easily make the argument that until the heating moment in American politics, there was a sense amongst the American political establishment that at some point in time, the institution of slavery was going to be meet its expected death, but perhaps also that rapid change to a slave-free nation was a bad idea.
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"No religion is true, but some religion, any religion, is politically necessary. Law and morality are insufficient for the large majority of men. Obedience to the law and to the morals are insufficient for making men happy. […]Law and morality are therefore in need of being supplemented by divine rewards and punishments."
Compare that to the cost of living of where these people are donating. If I live in an area which costs three times as expensive but donate slightly less than a guy who lives in an area that costs the base rate who donates slightly more, who actually gives more in terms of real dollars?
Remember that Bible story where a King gives huge amounts but a poor woman gives much less? Who did was praised in that story? The person who could afford it easily, or the person who couldn't?
"If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu
Jesus didn't give two squirts about "social issues" we care about today, but social conservatives largely define themselves by these issues. When the government, which they're ok with legislating morality, tries to enact programs that help the poor, they're often the ones screaming the loudest against it. If they dedicated the energy they use to complain about abortion and gay marriage into trying to find good ways to deal with poverty and the like, we'd be a much better place.
The Makeout Hobo is real, and does indeed travel around the country in his van and make out with ladies... If you meet the Makeout Hobo, it is customary to greet him with a shot of whiskey and a high five (if you are a dude) or passionate makeouts (if you are a lady).
If you believe in the Supernatural then you can become a millionaire!
Questioning or criticizing another's core beliefs is inadvertently perceived as offensive and rude.