View Poll Results: Are machines the last step of human evolution (in replacing them)?

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  • Yes, there is no way to avoid this

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  • Yes, it will probably happen

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  • Yes, it could happen

    1 4.55%
  • Maybe

    4 18.18%
  • No, its very unlikely

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  • No, humans will build sufficient security into them

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    Re: Are machines last step of human evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    I hope this happens, because we have eliminated natural selection from the process, so I'm not very optimistic about the next biological stage.
    Yes. This is very scary. Survival of the weakest anyone?
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    Re: Are machines last step of human evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Machines show the bi-polar nature of humans. Machines are everything that humans are not. Machines don't need sleep, machines don't need to eat, machines don't need to drink water, and machines don't need to think for themselves.

    The machine represents the humanity that never was and never will be; super strength, super speed, super calculation. Machines, however ironically, are not the extension of human sight, sense, taste, feeling, but the extension of human intelligence.
    Interesting. I dont agree machines are an extension of human intelligence, but rather a creation.
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    Re: Are machines last step of human evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    I take it Max just seen Surrogates
    Huh? Surrogates?
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    Re: Are machines last step of human evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Some speculate that the Singularity will be the end of Homo Sapiens as we know it
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    Re: Are machines last step of human evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Interesting. I dont agree machines are an extension of human intelligence, but rather a creation.
    What I mean is that they're an extension of human intelligence because whenever we have a machine with computing power it's always in a similar we compute and process information, but much faster.

    Machines computing power is no *different* than Human, other than it's speed and it accuracy. We don't understand thinking, so we don't know how to replicate it and because we cannot truly define it we cannot truly control it. To define is to control.
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    Re: Are machines last step of human evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I am simply asking this question because humans are about to give to machines all their knowledge, about to give them artificial intelligence, about to give them "feelings", basically about to transfer humanity into machines.

    When machines get advanced enought and can maintain themselves and build more advanced versions of themself and enter into their own evolution, which will not be very long from now. Will there anymore be a need for dependent, weak, emotional, irrational, illogical human beings?

    Machines have a potential that will make humans seem incredibly primitive, and if all of humanity is in them without any of the weaknesses. Then what is the need of humans? Will machines eventually realize this?

    The next step of human evolution is mix of machine and human, the maximum potantial of biology as oppose to that of machines seem incredibly low and primitive. Will humans ever take the step into becoming machines and leaving biology as a thing of the past?

    Personally I believe there is no way around it(except not going there which we will or near nuclear irradication, huge crisis that make us primitive and unable to build them, or something similar), especially considering the flawed ways and naive ways humans think, its very likely that advanced machines will be built, that are as secure as titanic in though, but then prove to be faulty, in that the machines can break away from human chains and limitations put on them.

    Whats your take?

    I think the last step in human evolution will be humans living longer due to replacing their body parts at first with robotic prosthetic parts and then cloned parts.


    Is there the danger of something like the Terminator or matrix happening? I say yes. Because we have idiot politicians who will try to toss the salad of some company for money and people who think that just because they can build something then they they should make it. This is why I support preemptive laws to prevent something like this from happening.
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    Re: Are machines last step of human evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think the last step in human evolution will be humans living longer due to replacing their body parts at first with robotic prosthetic parts and then cloned parts.


    Is there the danger of something like the Terminator or matrix happening? I say yes. Because we have idiot politicians who will try to toss the salad of some company for money and people who think that just because they can build something then they they should make it. This is why I support preemptive laws to prevent something like this from happening.
    In biological potential human brains could be transplanted into a complete machine and live on.

    But why? Machines are less prone to "flaws" than humans.

    Also, if one machine is made free to interpret all information put into it(most human knowledge and history) then certainly they will be able to understand far more than any human being, or any group of human beings.
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    Re: Are machines last step of human evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Yes. This is very scary. Survival of the weakest anyone?
    We havent stopped Natural selection its just the kind of people who sit on their ass and shoot out kids will be the selected.
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    Re: Are machines last step of human evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    In biological potential human brains could be transplanted into a complete machine and live on.

    But why? Machines are less prone to "flaws" than humans.
    Machines still require maintenance, we might be able to make machines that can make more machines but a robot parts can't make a human baby,plus some people just prefer the real thing. If anything there might be a combination of cloned body parts and robotic prosthetic parts.


    Also, if one machine is made free to interpret all information put into it(most human knowledge and history) then certainly they will be able to understand far more than any human being, or any group of human beings.
    It doesn't mean the machine will think in our best interest or what it thinks is the best interest for us may not necessarily be the best interest for us all.
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    Re: Are machines last step of human evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikhail View Post
    We havent stopped Natural selection its just the kind of people who sit on their ass and shoot out kids will be the selected.
    People get rewarded for stupidity these days. War is part of natural selection and survival of the strongest to be honest. But I am not a complete supporter of Darwin though.
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