A fetus is not a person, and the vast majority of abortions occur before it is capable of experiencing cruelty. Those that remain are done so quickly, causing braindeath in less time than it would take a cat to die if you shot it with 20 gauge birdshot. Thus if killing a fetus is like killing a cat, it's only a crime if it belongs to someone else.
The only thing subjective about it is deciding which to use.
for example: you can drink alcohol but you can't smoke weed. one is a crime and one is not because that's just what we decided.
you believe in that ?
i believe no law should exist unless it is absolutely objectively necessary and makes perfect sense.
but then of course i remember you think the chains are the best part of life.
frankly Korimyr i just don't care enough about abortion to argue with you about it. you are very difficult to argue with and i would rather save it for something i consider more important.
The only things that matter are what you want the law to do, and whether or not it works. If you don't know what you want the law to do, you can't tell whether or not it works-- and if you don't know why you want the law to do something, you can't tell whether or not it's worth the price.
I have a different solution. Remove the fetus without killing it, and leave it up to science or God to see if they can keep it alive. Because even if a fetus deserves the same rights as the rest of us it still shouldn't be allowed to ride around in someone's uterus.
Schadenfreude ist die schönste Freude.
No I would not support it.would you support this scheme ?
If I was an abortionist then I would view your idea as still stupid. It would be as absurd as suggesting criminal penalties for someone cutting off their own toenail since that is what abortionist view an unborn child as.
What does age of consent have to do with this? What if someone reaches puberty at a early age or even later,should someone who has sex with a 9 year old suffer less no punishment than someone who has sex with a child the same age just because that child developed early or should someone suffer punishment just because the victim reached puberty at a later age? 16 is the age of consent in many states around the country why push the line even lower? And if you are going to try to push it lower then why something not clearly defined by age. You are aware that puberty typically starts for girls starts at 10 and boys at 12?
age of consent is reduced to age of puberty.
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"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"
Cicero Marcus Tullius
If they want a kid so bad later on, then they can adopt.
The year is 2009, not 2900..
By then we will be, I hope, more civilized and abortion will end.Until the, we will have to live with it, like it or not.
Illegal abortion will just create more problems, not save lives..
Man has caused this problem by acting in an irresponsible manner; when he learns to respect life and the woman, most of the need for abortion will be gone...