Is MSNBC a propaganda beacon for the Democratic Party?

Dav · 11-26-09, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vader

Bill Gates owns MSNBC. Gates is as Republican as they come; therefore, MSNBC CANNOT be a Democratic propaganda beacon.

Um... no.

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EDIT: He also supported Obama last year.

repeter · 11-26-09, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by K-1

I'm not going to tell you to learn to read because the last time I did that I was given a warning...

Sure, Maddow and Olbermann bitch about how evil FOX News is...nobody is disputing that. However, the point I am making is that they never debate the opposite side in one-on-one debates. It is really not that hard a point to grasp, Professor.

IS there a difference between disputing everything one says, and disputing everything one says in person? Sure, it looks different, and feels different, but its the same thing. And I recall they had at least one GOP advisor, and Maddow just kept putting words in his mouth, and cutting him off...I don't think he got even one full thought out of his mouth, so that might not count as a "debate."

K-1 · 12-02-09, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by repeter

IS there a difference between disputing everything one says, and disputing everything one says in person? Sure, it looks different, and feels different, but its the same thing. And I recall they had at least one GOP advisor, and Maddow just kept putting words in his mouth, and cutting him off...I don't think he got even one full thought out of his mouth, so that might not count as a "debate."

There is a difference between rebutting conservative arguments with pathetic liberal sophistry without a conservative on the show to launch a counterargument, and having a proper one-on-one debate.

Additionally, your point about Maddow having a GOP person on the show is precisely my point. Liberals don't know how to have a cogent debate. Take Sean Hannity for example, if you watched his show yesterday in response to Obama's speech, he had on John McCain, two different Democrat congressmen, and liberals on his Great American panel. That is why FOX news can clearly be called "fair and balanced". Sure, the anchors overwhelmingly have a conservative viewpoint on many issues, but liberals certainly get a fair shake on FOX programming, much more than conservatives do on liberal networks.

repeter · 12-07-09, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by K-1

There is a difference between rebutting conservative arguments with pathetic liberal sophistry without a conservative on the show to launch a counterargument, and having a proper one-on-one debate.

Additionally, your point about Maddow having a GOP person on the show is precisely my point. Liberals don't know how to have a cogent debate. Take Sean Hannity for example, if you watched his show yesterday in response to Obama's speech, he had on John McCain, two different Democrat congressmen, and liberals on his Great American panel. That is why FOX news can clearly be called "fair and balanced". Sure, the anchors overwhelmingly have a conservative viewpoint on many issues, but liberals certainly get a fair shake on FOX programming, much more than conservatives do on liberal networks.

Just pointing out some of the irony in your statement.

Just change it around some and...

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There is a difference between rebutting liberal arguments with pathetic conservative sophistry without a liberal on the show to launch a counterargument, and having a proper one-on-one debate.

Anyhow, I get what you're saying. And I certainly don't want to argue that MSNBC is fair.

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