Is MSNBC a propaganda beacon for the Democratic Party?

Hatuey · 11-24-09, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Vader

Bill Gates owns MSNBC. Gates is as Republican as they come; therefore, MSNBC CANNOT be a Democratic propaganda beacon.

And Rupert Murdoch supported Hillary Clinton in 2006 and 2008. Now tell me FOX isn't a propaganda beacon for right wing news :

Their master's voice | Media | The Guardian

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It isn't always clear exactly what Murdoch believes on any given issue, but this time we know for certain, courtesy of an interview in the Australian magazine, the Bulletin (which, by the way, he doesn't own). To cite the report of that interview in Murdoch's own Sydney Daily Telegraph, the "media magnate...has backed President Bush's stance against Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein". Indeed, his quotes are specific. "We can't back down now, where you hand over the whole of the Middle East to Saddam...I think Bush is acting very morally, very correctly, and I think he is going to go on with it". Then came words of praise for Tony Blair. "I think Tony is being extraordinarily courageous and strong... It's not easy to do that living in a party which is largely composed of people who have a knee-jerk anti-Americanism and are sort of pacifist. But he's shown great guts as he did, I think, in Kosovo and various problems in the old Yugoslavia."

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Most revealing of all was Murdoch's reference to the rationale for going to war, blatantly using the o-word. Politicians in the United States and Britain have strenuously denied the significance of oil, but Murdoch wasn't so reticent. He believes that deposing the Iraqi leader would lead to cheaper oil. "The greatest thing to come out of this for the world economy...would be $20 a barrel for oil. That's bigger than any tax cut in any country."

He went even further down this road in an interview the week before with America's Fortune magazine by forecasting a postwar economic boom. "Once it [Iraq] is behind us, the whole world will benefit from cheaper oil which will be a bigger stimulus than anything else."

One action doesn't make a person right wing or left leaning. A series of actions however does.

PogueMoran · 11-24-09, 07:40 AM

id say until msnbc gets caught passing around internal talking points memos telling their staff to look for videos of alqaida celebrating republicans taking back congress like fox did with the democrats in 2006 and msnbc hires a democratic party operative as their president like fox has done with roger ailes then no not even close to being a propaganda arm. Msnbc has given an entire 3 hour block to a former republican congressman before that they had that douche tucker carlson had his own show as well. Which liberals have their own show on fox?

Vader · 11-24-09, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PogueMoran

id say until msnbc gets caught passing around internal talking points memos telling their staff to look for videos of alqaida celebrating republicans taking back congress like fox did with the democrats in 2006 and msnbc hires a democratic party operative as their president like fox has done with roger ailes then no not even close to being a propaganda arm. Msnbc has given an entire 3 hour block to a former republican congressman before that they had that douche tucker carlson had his own show as well. Which liberals have their own show on fox?

I think Hautey just got owned!

K-1 · 11-24-09, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe1991

Not that your counterarguement was challenging, but I doubt anyone on Fox is a Rhodes Scholar:

OMGZGZGZ! She was a Rhodes scholar?

Let's see her take on some of our conservative tough cookies. Isn't Maddow the same mental midget that ducked from having a one-on-one debate with Ann Coulter over her book, "Godless: The Church of Liberalism"?

Isn't it hilarious how MSNBC hosts, like Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow, portentously spew their trite and nonsensical liberal talking points, but never take on anyone with an opposing view? Anyone can magnanimously read shallow liberal talking points from Daily Kos and Media Matters, but, evidently, MSNBC liberals simply cannot defend their views in a robust debate. This is why their shows simply consist of one-sided liberal diatribes, and the interviewing of guests (who are know-nothing political commentators and who invariably possess the same silly liberal views as they do.)

repeter · 11-24-09, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by K-1

OMGZGZGZ! She was a Rhodes scholar?

Let's see her take on some of our conservative tough cookies. Isn't Maddow the same mental midget that ducked from having a one-on-one debate with Ann Coulter over her book, "Godless: The Church of Liberalism"?

Isn't it hilarious how MSNBC hosts, like Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow, portentously spew their trite and nonsensical liberal talking points, but never take on anyone with an opposing view? Anyone can magnanimously read shallow liberal talking points from Daily Kos and Media Matters, but, evidently, MSNBC liberals simply cannot defend their views in a robust debate. This is why their shows simply consist of one-sided liberal diatribes, and the interviewing of guests (who are know-nothing political commentators and who invariably possess the same silly liberal views as they do.)

Have you ever actually seen MSNBC before?

K-1 · 11-24-09, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by repeter

Have you ever actually seen MSNBC before?

Is this your counterargument?

Are you really trying to argue that Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow routinely have conservative guests on their shows where they engage in robust debates about the issues? What is the point you are making?

TOJ · 11-24-09, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vader

Bill Gates owns MSNBC. Gates is as Republican as they come; therefore, MSNBC CANNOT be a Democratic propaganda beacon.

MS is only a minor holder in MSNBC TV now. NBC Universal is the majority holder and also owns NBC and CNBC. General Electric owns NBC Universal and guess who is a major Obama supporter and stands to rake in billions from the revamp of the healthcare industry.

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youngbridge · 11-24-09, 11:50 PM

MSNBC exists to entertain and to make people lots of money. That's it. The same goes for Fox and CNN.

repeter · 11-25-09, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by K-1

Is this your counterargument?

Are you really trying to argue that Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow routinely have conservative guests on their shows where they engage in robust debates about the issues? What is the point you are making?

I'm simply asking have you seen MSNBC before. The point in this is, that practically the only thing that Maddow and Olberman do is argue that FOX News is biased, and wrong.

K-1 · 11-26-09, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by repeter

I'm simply asking have you seen MSNBC before. The point in this is, that practically the only thing that Maddow and Olberman do is argue that FOX News is biased, and wrong.

I'm not going to tell you to learn to read because the last time I did that I was given a warning...

Sure, Maddow and Olbermann bitch about how evil FOX News is...nobody is disputing that. However, the point I am making is that they never debate the opposite side in one-on-one debates. It is really not that hard a point to grasp, Professor.

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youngbridge User Join Date: Nov 2009 Last Seen: 12-07-09 11:46 PM Posts: 51 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Lean: Liberal Gender:	Re: Is MSNBC a propaganda beacon for the Democratic Party? MSNBC exists to entertain and to make people lots of money. That's it. The same goes for Fox and CNN.

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