View Poll Results: Should College Students Bear the Full Cost of Their Own Education?

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  • No, the government is rich and can take the money from the taxpayer anyway.

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  • No, they're too young and not ready for the rigors of personal responsibility.

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  • No, they don't have any other options in life.

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Thread: Shouldn't Adults Getting a College Education Pay for it Themselves?

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    Re: Shouldn't Adults Getting a College Education Pay for it Themselves?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You need credit or someone to co-sign to get any loan. I've tried to apply for a loan 3 times in the past 4 years. I've been turned down every single time because I do not have the credit nor have a co-signer.
    Were these loans federally guaranteed student loans? I believe that absolutely anyone can get federal student loans through getting accepted to a school and filling out a FAFSA.

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    Who said anything about "not working" or having kids at 17? I'm 34 years old and would like to go to college. I've got 2 kids and a wife and we are barely making our bills. What do I do?
    Take out the loans I mentioned above. If you don't want to do that, then I don't know what to tell you.

    Do you seriously think that no citizen pays for public education? I pay a land tax that helps support our schools every 6 months.
    Where did I say that no citizen pays for public education? I think it's pretty obvious that I acknowledged that we do, considering that that's where the money to fund these schools come from. How else would they be funded?

    What I was referring to is what we've been talking about in this thread - the fact that students can get almost two decades worth of education while bearing an absolutely minuscule portion of the cost.
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    Re: Shouldn't Adults Getting a College Education Pay for it Themselves?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt633 View Post
    We are not trying to benefit the State. The state has no money to give. State money is my money and your money that it took from us. It is the money of the people.
    And the State is the embodiment of the will of the people. It takes our money in the fashion we have lawfully authorized to fund those programs which we have lawfully empowered it to conduct. The State and the people are not separate entities and they are not at odds; what benefits the State benefits the people and vice versa.

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    Now unless you are personally willing to financially undergird the education of strangers then it makes no sense for you to support the State paying for it.
    I'm personally willing to pay my taxes just like everybody else. And if I were fortunate enough to live in a higher tax bracket, I would still be happy to pay my taxes and happy that they would pay for programs like this that would benefit all Americans-- and especially productive, working Americans-- rather than Welfare and corporate bailouts that primarily benefit parasites that feed off of our honest labor and innovation.

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    Re: Shouldn't Adults Getting a College Education Pay for it Themselves?

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    How is it ignorant? You believe that people should have kids before they are ready to actually take care of them and provide for them?
    It's ignorant to think that you can't raise kids on minimum wage.
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    Re: Shouldn't Adults Getting a College Education Pay for it Themselves?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    It's ignorant to think that you can't raise kids on minimum wage.
    No one said it was impossible, it's simply much more difficult and since the thread is discussing people who are also trying to get an education on minimum wage, that makes it much, much, much more difficult and frankly, irresponsible. Exactly how is someone supposed to work and attend school *AND* actually be involved in their child's life?

    The only responsible option is to put off having children until you're out of school and financially sound.
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    Re: Shouldn't Adults Getting a College Education Pay for it Themselves?

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    Re: Shouldn't Adults Getting a College Education Pay for it Themselves?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Were these loans federally guaranteed student loans? I believe that absolutely anyone can get federal student loans through getting accepted to a school and filling out a FAFSA.
    Admittedly no they were not. I'll check into it.


    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Where did I say that no citizen pays for public education? I think it's pretty obvious that I acknowledged that we do, considering that that's where the money to fund these schools come from. How else would they be funded?

    What I was referring to is what we've been talking about in this thread - the fact that students can get almost two decades worth of education while bearing an absolutely minuscule portion of the cost.
    So do you expect students that are not considered adults to pay for k-12?

    Sorry but you're kind of making it sound like they should feel privileged that they don't have to pay for it.
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    Re: Shouldn't Adults Getting a College Education Pay for it Themselves?

    It's ignorant to think that you can't raise kids on minimum wage.
    Ok then, if people want to support a family on minimum wage, then they should use their minimum wage to support their family instead of going off to college.

    If people want to go to college and get the education necessary to earn more than minimum wage, they should do that BEFORE they start a family.

    If people start a family while making minimum wage, and then find that they don't have enough left over to pay for college, then they should just sit there and regret that they didn't have the foresight to go to college before deciding to have kids.

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    Re: Shouldn't Adults Getting a College Education Pay for it Themselves?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No one said it was impossible, it's simply much more difficult and since the thread is discussing people who are also trying to get an education on minimum wage, that makes it much, much, much more difficult and frankly, irresponsible. Exactly how is someone supposed to work and attend school *AND* actually be involved in their child's life?

    The only responsible option is to put off having children until you're out of school and financially sound.
    Lots of mothers do all of those all of the time. While they're single even. And you're just accounting for young kids fresh out of high school. What about those in their 30's-40's? The ones that for some reason or other didn't need to go to college for what ever reason? Remember there was a time quite recently even that a degree wasn't required for practically every single job out there.

    Just because it is "more" difficult does not mean that they are being "irresponsible".
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    Re: Shouldn't Adults Getting a College Education Pay for it Themselves?

    Wow, where are you getting your condoms? $50 each?
    Costco man. You have to buy them in packs of 200, but hey, who wants to have to pick up condoms more than once a week anyway?

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    Re: Shouldn't Adults Getting a College Education Pay for it Themselves?

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    Ok then, if people want to support a family on minimum wage, then they should use their minimum wage to support their family instead of going off to college.

    If people want to go to college and get the education necessary to earn more than minimum wage, they should do that BEFORE they start a family.

    If people start a family while making minimum wage, and then find that they don't have enough left over to pay for college, then they should just sit there and regret that they didn't have the foresight to go to college before deciding to have kids.
    Situations change and no one can plan for everything, much less plan for the unexpected.
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