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Psychedelic Hotel idea

Is this a good idea?

  • Yes, I will explain why

    Votes: 3 21.4%
  • No, I will explain why

    Votes: 9 64.3%
  • Other, I will explain why

    Votes: 2 14.3%

  • Total voters
    14
You only live once...

So why not suffer while you do it right? right? high five? high five?

yeaaaah maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.





no? okay....
 
You only live once maaaaaaann...


So lets do some drugs and look like this....

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So why not suffer while you do it right? right? high five? high five?

yeaaaah maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.





no? okay....

I wasn't suffering, pig.
 
and yet the stigma remains. :( It's amazing we've moved forward with anything controversial in this country :lol:

Hell, I'm not saying it's healthy. I'm just saying it was awesome.

I guess that makes me a joke or something.
 
Hell, I'm not saying it's healthy. I'm just saying it was awesome.

I guess that makes me a joke or something.


This guy thought it was totally awesome too!

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Hell, I'm not saying it's healthy. I'm just saying it was awesome.

I guess that makes me a joke or something.

Yeah to all the people who don't do drugs, pay their taxes on time, and always drive the speed limit :lol:


Don't worry, those who judge you are often just as bad ;)
 
This guy thought it was totally awesome too!

methhead.jpg

You keep submitting pics of meth users, even though this thread is about l.s.d.

Do you really not know the difference?
 
You keep submitting pics of meth users, even though this thread is about l.s.d.

Do you really not know the difference?

How do you know they are meth users?

:mrgreen:

Did you fail to read how the topic got off on MDMA and Ecstacy or as Mr. Ethereal put it "E".

Glorifying the use of drugs turns people into the above pictured folks.

The attitude, "I know its bad for me but its AWESOMeeeEe!!" turns people into the above listed folks.
 
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How do you know they are meth users?

:mrgreen:

Well for starters the Filename...


And anyone who's taken a semester in Substance Abuse or can use Google can easily find out what outward symptoms meth addicts show


:lol:


also! Here's one of an alcoholic. Don't know if it was a 1 time thing or a hardcore addict though...

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This is awesomely awesome recreational therapy!

MDMA is useful in sufferers of PTSD. In conjunction with therapy and standard drug treatment, it reduces the incidence and the intensity of flashbacks and helps the patient to reestablish normal emotional responses to stimuli. In moderate, therapeutic use the damage to serotonin receptors is mild to non-existent and is easily offset by the antidepressants that are among the standard treatment options for PTSD.

I'm not suggesting anyone use MDMA outside of a clinical setting. It's filthy stuff and half the time you're only getting standard methamphetamines anyway. But it's foolish to discard a drug's legitimate medicinal uses because of the potential for abuse-- heroin was invented as a less addictive alternative to morphine, after all.
 
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Not prolonged, immediate. Studies show that that effect occurs with very limited use, the effects on chemical receptors in the brain is profound. Ecstasy is bad, that's all there is to it. Doing it is stupid, that's all there is to it. I understand people wanting to do drugs and such, and I'll let people make their own mistakes. But people should talk honestly about the drug use. If you look up the studies, you'll find that there is good indication that effects of ecstasy can manifest themselves after the first use.

There's still a lot we do not know about prolonged MDMA usage.

Data suggest that MDMA may be toxic to the brain. Dr. George Ricaurte, an associate professor of neurology at Johns Hopkins University, analyzed brain scans of people who had used ecstasy. The study included people who had used ecstasy an average of 200 times over five years. Although the behavior of these people appeared normal, brain scans showed that the drug had damaged their brains. In fact, those who used the drug more often had more brain damage than less frequent users. Moreover, memory tests of people who have taken ecstasy as compared to non-drug users have shown that the ecstasy users had lower scores. Specifically, the drug damaged cells that release the neurotransmitter called serotonin. Using an imaging technique called positron emission tomography (PET), Ricaurte noted a 20-60% reduction in healthy serotonin cells in the drug users. Damage to these cells could affect a person's abilities to remember and to learn.

At this point, scientists do not know if this damage is permanent, or if those damaged cells will replace themselves. Also, it is not known if this loss of cells affects behavior or the ability to think. Ricaurte is conducting other studies to gauge ecstasy's effect on mood, memory, cognition, and behaviors such as eating and sleeping. In 2003, German researchers used PET scans to study the brains of current and past users of ecstasy. This research demonstrated that ecstasy users had lower levels of serotonin activity in several brain areas. However, ecstasy users who stopped using the drug 20 weeks before the scan showed some recovery in serotonin function.
 
How do you know they are meth users?

:mrgreen:

Did you fail to read how the topic got off on MDMA and Ecstacy or as Mr. Ethereal put it "E".

Glorifying the use of drugs turns people into the above pictured folks.

The attitude, "I know its bad for me but its AWESOMeeeEe!!" turns people into the above listed folks.

Who here is glorifying drug usage?
 
MDMA is useful in sufferers of PTSD. In conjunction with therapy and standard drug treatment, it reduces the incidence and the intensity of flashbacks and helps the patient to reestablish normal emotional responses to stimuli. In moderate, therapeutic use the damage to serotonin receptors is mild to non-existent and is easily offset by the antidepressants that are among the standard treatment options for PTSD.

I'm not suggesting anyone use MDMA outside of a clinical setting. It's filthy stuff and half the time you're only getting standard methamphetamines anyway. But it's foolish to discard a drug's legitimate medicinal uses because of the potential for abuse-- heroin was invented as a less addictive alternative to morphine, after all.
I find it interesting that heroine is less addictive than methadone, the pharmaceutical substance which is legally prescribed as an analgesic. My mom took methadone for a while and the physical withdrawal was essentially a longer version of a heroine withdrawal.
 
There's still a lot we do not know about prolonged MDMA usage.

With regards to cells replacing the damaged cells, neurons in both the central and peripheral nervous system do not exhibit a high tendency to do so.

Neurons do not replenish like other cells in the body. Only in the early years of life, say 3-6 year old children, may display some acuity to adapt to neural damage. Afterward, especially after puberty, replacement of these types of cells are nearly impossible. Once the damage is done, it is very difficult to undue and most of the time it is irreversible.
 
There's still a lot we do not know about prolonged MDMA usage.

Experiments on rats and monkeys are different though. The only thing is if you can draw conclusions about humans based off of it (for I don't think they would really allow this human experimentation to see for sure). The latest findings are that the damage is near immediate and permanent. As I said, I'm not going to stop people from destroying their brains. If they want to spit in the face of evolution, they can. Some of those people I'll probably stop regarding as human though.
 
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