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Would the rich miss 5%?

It's not for someone who is already a billionaire and who earned more than a billion dollars in one year.

Warren told me that they can f**k off then, he wont work for two years tax money.

If I would go utopian for a moment, I would rather have them tax certain consumer goods heavily. We all need food, shelter and things that give us hope like education and healthcare, no need to tax that heavily. On the other hand, hummers, fake tits, kaviar, whale meat, pda's, lawyers and other crap could be taxed 500%.
 
Warren told me that they can f**k off then, he wont work for two years tax money.

If I would go utopian for a moment, I would rather have them tax certain consumer goods heavily. We all need food, shelter and things that give us hope like education and healthcare, no need to tax that heavily. On the other hand, hummers, fake tits, kaviar, whale meat, pda's, lawyers and other crap could be taxed 500%.

I'm sure most rich socially responsible people would have no problem being taxed higher than the most so long as they knew the government was spending their money responsibly. If we are to tax the rich like the way I was saying, the government would have to be much more responsible and transparent and it would need to downsize too.
 
I'm sure most rich socially responsible people would have no problem being taxed higher than the most so long as they knew the government was spending their money responsibly. If we are to tax the rich like the way I was saying, the government would have to be much more responsible and transparent and it would need to downsize too.

I guess what I don't get is why you have this aching desire to penalize people's success with higher taxes. :confused:
 
What do you think, would people earning over $250K a year miss 5%?

Doesn't matter. It's their money. It belongs to THEM. If you want to take some of it, then move to Russia, where they do things like that. This is America, not a Communist state. If the rich want to miss 5% of their income, it should be their choice to do so.

NOTE: Final judgment on helping the poor is made after we die. Jesus said that whatever we do "to the least of these", we have done unto him. So, if the rich are truly religious, and not religious hypocrite wannabes, then they had better heed those words, for the sake of their eternal souls. But it is not the function of the government to enforce morality, which includes dictating that people should give to the poor. It is only a commandment from a higher power that people have a right to believe or not believe, as they choose. It's all about free choice.
 
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Which justifies robbing a man of his money...how? :confused:

It is not robbery. We need to pay income taxes for things that we all use and need to be in good shape. Like highways, roads, , education, forest preserves, water.
 
Which "aristocrats" pay nothing in taxes? I call bull****.

The uber rich, the likes of Buffet and such, tend to pay a lower marginal tax rate than their secretaries.
 
The uber rich, the likes of Buffet and such, tend to pay a lower marginal tax rate than their secretaries.

Only they pay 186 million in taxes. Which is basically the budget of an University.
 
I guess what I don't get is why you have this aching desire to penalize people's success with higher taxes. :confused:

I don't have a desire to tax those with a higher income. My dad is one who is earning over 250k. I have a lucky life. And we know many people who earn similar or more money. I am not saying to raise the income tax on them. Raise the income tax on the Warren Buffets of this country. They make more money then the combined salaries of many small size companies. Its ridiculous.
 
Only they pay 186 million in taxes. Which is basically the budget of an University.

K, so you favor regressive taxation. Got it.
 
I don't have a desire to tax those with a higher income. My dad is one who is earning over 250k. I have a lucky life. And we know many people who earn similar or more money. I am not saying to raise the income tax on them. Raise the income tax on the Warren Buffets of this country. They make more money then the combined salaries of many small size companies. Its ridiculous.

So again, why penalize the success of a man with higher taxes just because he has succeeded in making a higher income?
 
So again, why penalize the success of a man with higher taxes just because he has succeeded in making a higher income?

Because their comes a point where they have earned it to the point where they are just sitting around not doing anything to earn it. Like Warren Buffet.
 
So again, why penalize the success of a man with higher taxes just because he has succeeded in making a higher income?

I don't think that when some level is reached, people are given options to lower their tax rate while others making less are left with no such option. We can solve the problem by lowering everyone's taxes. Though we'll have to cut services as well.
 
Because their comes a point where they have earned it to the point where they are just sitting around not doing anything to earn it. Like Warren Buffet.

So they earned the right to...stop earning? :confused:

You aren't even making sense. Face it, your logic is the same logic that the shoplifter uses. Walmart isn't going to miss it so just take it from them.

That's not cool.
 
K, so you favor regressive taxation. Got it.

And you're dishonest in claiming the rich pay 'nothing' in taxes when in fact they pay more in a year than you and I could hope to pay in our lifetimes.
 
I don't think that when some level is reached, people are given options to lower their tax rate while others making less are left with no such option. We can solve the problem by lowering everyone's taxes. Though we'll have to cut services as well.

I'm all for cutting services.

We can start with these junkie needle exchange programs here in california. And the junkie nurses to give junkies their shots "safely" programs. And then we can stop paying for all these spontaneous parades here. I mean, do we really need a mexican day every single month?

That's just a start.
 
So they earned the right to...stop earning? :confused:

You aren't even making sense. Face it, your logic is the same logic that the shoplifter uses. Walmart isn't going to miss it so just take it from them.

That's not cool.

No...that's not my logic.

They still would be earning and still be considered a billionaire and still be able to afford a million islands or buying their own country if they want to even after paying their income taxes.

What I am suggesting is that if these people paid more in their income taxes then we wouldn't have to pick up their slack. They are not making you rich. So why do you care so much? Do you understand that they would still be able to afford the nicest things in life? It is in no way stealing.
 
And you're dishonest in claiming the rich pay 'nothing' in taxes when in fact they pay more in a year than you and I could hope to pay in our lifetimes.

Right. But they are still left with an even bigger amount to spend in one year than you and I could ever hope for.
 
I'm all for cutting services.

We can start with these junkie needle exchange programs here in california. And the junkie nurses to give junkies their shots "safely" programs. And then we can stop paying for all these spontaneous parades here. I mean, do we really need a mexican day every single month?

That's just a start.

Right we should cut services, but we also should change the law. Some laws are just plain stupid that take away freedom.
 
No...that's not my logic.

They still would be earning and still be considered a billionaire and still be able to afford a million islands or buying their own country if they want to even after paying their income taxes.

What I am suggesting is that if these people paid more in their income taxes then we wouldn't have to pick up their slack. They are not making you rich. So why do you care so much? Do you understand that they would still be able to afford the nicest things in life? It is in no way stealing.

First of all, how are we picking up their slack? For some reason, I hardly think these people are living off the dole or not paying for their own medical care or accepting public funds for their living expenses.

Secondly, I don't expect these people to make me rich. Third, I don't find it my concern to question what they are buying with their money. It's theirs just like mine is mine. If they buy a country or fund a soup kitchen, that's their right. I support that and care because I would like to maintain the same rights for myself.

And yes, it is stealing to take more from them than their own share.

If you wanna tax everyone the same based on a percentage, fine. That's fair. But to say that they owe 90% in taxes just because they are successful while I owe only 20%...just because???

That's stealing. It's a double standard and it is penalizing success.
 
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