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    Re: Would the rich miss 5%?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I doubt the tolls would be as high as the 10's of thousands I send to the government every year.
    Think a little larger.

    Imagine every road in America was a toll road. Now, imagine that every shipping company who used those roads tacked on the cost of tolls to goods. Now, imagine the cost in time from having to go through toll lanes. All this adds up to extremely inefficient and uncompetitive American firms. If everything was a user fee system, the costs of doing business in America would be astronomical.

    While I dislike corporate welfare, the millions in taxation at the federal and state level that goes into building capital improvements for corporations does allow them to compete on the international market and provide jobs for Americans.
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    Re: Would the rich miss 5%?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I'm all for cutting services.

    We can start with these junkie needle exchange programs here in california. And the junkie nurses to give junkies their shots "safely" programs. And then we can stop paying for all these spontaneous parades here. I mean, do we really need a mexican day every single month?

    That's just a start.
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    Re: Would the rich miss 5%?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Think a little larger.

    Imagine every road in America was a toll road. Now, imagine that every shipping company who used those roads tacked on the cost of tolls to goods. Now, imagine the cost in time from having to go through toll lanes. All this adds up to extremely inefficient and uncompetitive American firms. If everything was a user fee system, the costs of doing business in America would be astronomical.

    While I dislike corporate welfare, the millions in taxation at the federal and state level that goes into building capital improvements for corporations does allow them to compete on the international market and provide jobs for Americans.

    No one likes paying taxes but everyone loves the conveniences that we have.

    What they don't realize is that they don't get these things for free.
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    Re: Would the rich miss 5%?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No one likes paying taxes but everyone loves the conveniences that we have.

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    What convenience? To drive on roads with assholes? I'll just buy my own road if you don't tax me.

    /sarcasm

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    Re: Would the rich miss 5%?

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    Re: Would the rich miss 5%?

    Quote Originally Posted by stalin_was_a_nice_being View Post
    Because their comes a point where they have earned it to the point where they are just sitting around not doing anything to earn it. Like Warren Buffet.
    first of all there is a difference between a Buffet and somebody living off a investment portfolio so you once again FAIL

    on every tax form there is the ability to pay more than is owed under the tax code. Ergo Buffet is a hypocite. So is every phony proposing higher taxes while not paying in more than they have to. If people are so intent on others paying more in taxes, the first thing they need to do is PAY MORE IN TAXES than is required, otherwise you FAIL

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I didn't say they pay nothing (it said practically nothing as it was a comparison to other tax bracket tax rates). I say those in charge have set the rules to allow them to unfairly lower their marginal tax rate over what the rest of the people have to pay. And it's true. Buffet pays a lower marginal tax rate than his secretary. The same is true with most of the people of that level. Buffet has a million dollar challenge for people in the top 1% if they pay a higher tax rate than their secretaries. No one has taken him up on it. The rules are set this way.

    Buffett blasts system that lets him pay less tax than secretary - Times Online
    He is free to pay more than he is required to. if he preaches for higher taxes without voluntarily doing it in the meantime means he is just an uberdouche who does not want anybody else to do in the future, what he was able to do in the past/present.

    **** hypocrites of this magnitude. if he was so upset by this he could have paid his secretaries taxes and volunteered to pay more himself

    why doesnt he pay that extra 5% before it is legislated

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    Re: Would the rich miss 5%?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    on every tax form there is the ability to pay more than is owed under the tax code.
    Okay let us start here:

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    Re: Would the rich miss 5%?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Think a little larger.

    Imagine every road in America was a toll road. Now, imagine that every shipping company who used those roads tacked on the cost of tolls to goods.
    I'm perfectly fine with that. I know they already tack on an extra cost due to the amount of taxes they have to pay to use those same roads. I don't see any difference.

    Now, imagine the cost in time from having to go through toll lanes.
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    Re: Would the rich miss 5%?

    I am having trouble seeing how income from investments is "earned" income.
    Especially if the super rich play a role in the manipulation of stock value.

    It was legal to do so before the great depression. Reporters were paid, by check, to tout stocks at the requests of the rich....

    Surely there are unethical practices involved today?
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    Re: Would the rich miss 5%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Days View Post
    We are a civilized nation, not a bunch of selfish gits who don't care about our fellow countrymen, aren't we?
    Well I see a large difference between caring about my fellow man and being asked to help someone that chooses not to help themselves.

    Ive never been against helping someone that genuinely cannot help themselves. What I am agaisnt is expecting people who make the right choices pick up the slack for those that made the wrong choices and do not want to live with the consequences.

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