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    mad Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the United States?

    US President Obama claimed that the Unitd States wished to co-govern the world with China. As for this statement, Premier Wen of China refused with three causes:

    First, China is the most highly populated country in the world and it had a long way to walk to build a modernized country. Thus, China should keep awake time to time;

    Second, China has been pursuing an ...
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    As an indian, i think it is really funny!

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    Re: Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    Why not.. they did it once before after all... well the known world
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    Re: Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Why not.. they did it once before after all... well the known world
    When?
    What's the details?

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    Re: Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by indianelephant View Post
    When?
    What's the details?
    Guess you have not take history class? China was an Empire long before most European countries were even formed for example. They dominated the "known" world in almost all the same aspects as the US has done the last 50 years.
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    Re: Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Guess you have not take history class? China was an Empire long before most European countries were even formed for example. They dominated the "known" world in almost all the same aspects as the US has done the last 50 years.
    China had no empire in its dynastic eras. It had natural land fortifications in the form of ocean and mountain, leaving only its Northern passage vulnerable to invasion. This was why the Great Wall was built. It was isolationist and xenophobic by nature, although it did consider itself the centre of civilization in the known world. The surrounding Asian nations were tributary states to the Chinese emperor, and this afforded them economic benefits.

    If what you actually meant to say is that China had advancement from early on, you would be correct. Until after the 1600's, China was the most advanced nation on the planet technologically; however, they did not "dominate" anyone.

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    Re: Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    They WERE the known world. For much of it, theirs was the only polity in town. Assuming that any country is capable of "governing the world" why should they settle for mere co-governance?

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    Re: Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    China had no empire in its dynastic eras. It had natural land fortifications in the form of ocean and mountain, leaving only its Northern passage vulnerable to invasion. This was why the Great Wall was built. It was isolationist and xenophobic by nature, although it did consider itself the centre of civilization in the known world. The surrounding Asian nations were tributary states to the Chinese emperor, and this afforded them economic benefits.

    If what you actually meant to say is that China had advancement from early on, you would be correct. Until after the 1600's, China was the most advanced nation on the planet technologically; however, they did not "dominate" anyone.
    I agree and disagree.

    First and most important, we have to be very distinctive in "govern the world" bit. When China was a dominant country the world was a very very large place and most people still thought the world was flat and had never heard of China (those in Europe that is). Today the world is a small place.

    Hence when we do such comparisons we must take that into account. This means the world back then was "geographic" regions where certain countries or peoples were dominant. In Europe it was the Romans, Greeks and so on. In Asia it was very very much the Chinese.

    So in the geographic area of Asia, China did "govern the world" so to say by its military might, political might and its technology might. Yes it was some what isolationist, and yet it did expand its borders time and time again. But the constant wars and famines had its toll and pushed the Empire time and time again to the brink of breakup. But that does not change the fact that very few peoples in Asia did not "fear and respect" the Chinese much like the world does with the US today on a global scale.

    So that is what I mean when I say "they have done it before".

    I could say the same of the Spanish, British, Romans, Greeks, Iran/Iraq, and others if they had the same economic/military/technology/political might as they once had.. but of course they dont.

    But yes they were very dominant in technology at the time... in fact I would claim much more than the US was at one point.
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    Re: Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    The country will not become a true economic superpower until it frees it's people from such an authoritarian regime. Not only will this improve the nations credibility, but it will allow a true middle class to emerge thereby having a long run economic growth engine in their stable.

    In 20 years take a few give a few.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by indianelephant View Post
    Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the United States?

    US President Obama claimed that the Unitd States wished to co-govern the world with China. As for this statement, Premier Wen of China refused with three causes:

    First, China is the most highly populated country in the world and it had a long way to walk to build a modernized country. Thus, China should keep awake time to time;

    Second, China has been pursuing an ...
    [Discussion] Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the United States? - Global Times Forum--Discuss China,Discuss the world--The Most Open and Objective Forum in China
    As an indian, i think it is really funny!
    Did our idiot president say something as stupid as that? It's perfectly believable that he would think so.

    There's only one problem.

    Americans have no desire to govern the world.

    That's a disease the Europeans suffer from.

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    Re: Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    They WERE the known world. For much of it, theirs was the only polity in town. Assuming that any country is capable of "governing the world" why should they settle for mere co-governance?
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