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Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

  • Yes, China does;

    Votes: 13 30.2%
  • No, China doesn't;

    Votes: 30 69.8%

  • Total voters
    43
That is irrelevant. We're talking about their qualifications to be a co-leader. Not their finances.
whats the qualifications in your eyes of being a leader? attacking countries, and forcing them to do business with you? framing countries for having wmd? assassinating democratically elected leaders? forcefully keeping bases in other peoples countries when they demanded you get out? staging coups?
 
Maybe some day China will be a super power, but not today.

The US does not want to govern the world, just guide it a little.
the us doesnt want to govern the world, only the parts with natural resources.
 
Except that they purposefully use their state run banks to manipulate our currency which is in fact a backdoor tariff. They aren't welcoming us with open arms, the Communist party sees dollar signs and manipulates the system to keep it rolling it at the cost of the prosperity and wealth of their own people.
wrong. YOU are trying to manipulate their currency, so you dont have to pay back as much debt. nice try though.
 
I am not excusing China. I am just saying that your view that China manipulates your currency is just backward thinking.

The reality is that you sold them currency, and now you are pissed of because they have control of their own currency, and you do not after the Euro became an alternative to the once only global currency the dollar. The American dollar has since become so incredibly inflexible, and the American economy with it. No more are you able to maniupulate the economies of the world, and your gradual loss of economic power and power in all areas are making you blame others.

Blaming China for your currency problems is COMPLETELY ABSURD.

this is also typical american tactics.
 
It's not American claims, that's YOUR HATRED towards America coming out. Other countries have raised the same issue. China buys and exports, but they purposefully undervalue their currency which in essence cheapens imports for them while making exports more expensive. This hits all of us. There has been a lot of talk about this issue with China. Their purposeful manipulation of the market against import/export while subsidizing their purchases. This is real, it has a measurable effect, the effect has been measured. Your refusal to see it is either rooted in complete blinding BIAS or IGNORANCE. So take your pick on that one.

I have merely stated that it is within the proper power of the United States to institute a floating tariff which accounts for this purposeful manipulation. You seem to think that America can't protect its own currency or that we deserve what we get. And that's just you being ignorant. Talk about extremists...that's the group YOU'RE in.
i agree with maximus. you are seriously ignorant and have no knowledge of economics whatsoever. not one of your thoughts is original.
 
I dont even want to mention who has cheated the most in Olympics. :yes: US & Russia.
america is sad and sore losers. i loved how they changed the way they list their medals from most gold medals to total medals.
 
human rights? you got to be joking me. you;re from a country that killed 1 million iraqis, put 4 million as refugees. support a country like israel that is regularly torturing palestinians and you want to talk about human rights? im not even going to get into americas involvement in south america; the cia; guantanamo bay; abu ghraib; use of white phosphorous on civilians; and your use of the death penalty. so get a clue.

:roll: mate, you need to grow up a bit, whatever america has done, while usually a bit pointless or excessive, is no where near as bad as china treats it's citizens, and if your gonna make claims like that, provide links, makes your argument seem a bit more logical.

it was not a million dead in the iraq war, by no stretch of the imagination.

again, proof of torturing palestinians is needed to make it seem serious

you argue abu ghraib as a case, thats an isolated case

as for the death penalty, china has that too, and they go even further with the one child policy, as well as persecuting religious and ethnic minorities.

the US actions are incomparable to those of China in terms of human rights.


and if you don't mind me asking, what country are you from?
 
Hmm, American laws prevent children being used in sweatshops. How's China in that regard? Also the US doesn't forcefully harvest organs from its prisoners. Hows China in that regard?

American's may have more prisoners but that's probably because we hold people to a higher standard. Also the US doesn't execute it's prisoners near as much as China.

Your examples are for the most part wrong.

The only time a person goes to jail for not filling out a tax paper is when they purposely don't pay their taxes. And even then they are given a chance to pay them long before any sort of jail sentence. For the ones that still refuse to pay the IRS normally just takes money directly out of their checks through a court order. If that still don't work then they get sent to jail.

No one goes to jail for making a mistake on a tax form. Wherever you read that needs to check their facts.

The amount of time that a person goes to jail for stealing a car varies by state. But from what I can tell the max amount that a person can be sentenced is 7 years. Judges often give far more leniant sentences for first time offenders. Normally around 1-2 years, again depending on the states minimum sentence allowed laws.
meanwhile the sweat shop is probably owned by an american. sweat shops wouldnt even exist if not for americans. america may not execute its prisoners, but it sure doesnt seem to have a problem executing 1 million iraqis, or assist israel in executing palestinians. you may not go to jail for filing your taxes wrong, but if you are a resident of any given country, you can have the privalege of getting kidnapped by the cia, tortured, and imprisoned. if youre a ucla student that refuses to show your id, you might get tazed. if youre a university of florida student, and you speak your mind at a john kerry forum, you might also get tazed.
 
:roll: mate, you need to grow up a bit, whatever america has done, while usually a bit pointless or excessive, is no where near as bad as china treats it's citizens, and if your gonna make claims like that, provide links, makes your argument seem a bit more logical.

it was not a million dead in the iraq war, by no stretch of the imagination.

again, proof of torturing palestinians is needed to make it seem serious

you argue abu ghraib as a case, thats an isolated case

as for the death penalty, china has that too, and they go even further with the one child policy, as well as persecuting religious and ethnic minorities.

the US actions are incomparable to those of China in terms of human rights.


and if you don't mind me asking, what country are you from?

not saying china is perfect, but americans are in no position to talk. youre right, the us actions are incomparable to china. the usa is far worse, but that isnt even the issue. americans lecture people on human rights when they are out slaughtering people and supporting dicatators. it's funny how bin laden and sadam are such terrible people, but what you are ignoring is that america put both these people into power, and supported them. right this moment, america is supporting, and training similar people around the world. china on the other hand doesnt lecture anyone, nor do they claim to be a country of freedom, and justice.
im glad to provide links

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5L1VdlktOw"]YouTube- War on democracy - School of Americas[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g7zlJx9u2E"]YouTube- UCLA Student Tasered by Police in Library[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE"]YouTube- University of Florida student Tasered at Kerry forum[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ2R6nGR9-g&feature=related"]YouTube- Student tasered for wearing a baseball cap[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOQbF6zJRiE"]YouTube- Awareness Test: Cops[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUzd7G875Hc"]YouTube- Baptist pastor beaten + tazed by Border patrol - 11 stitches[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWxpQ87C4t4"]YouTube- Torture in American prisons[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v-TUNwFU4M"]YouTube- US Soldiers Abuse Afghan Civilians[/ame]

[ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-210088912352527308"]John Pilger- Breaking the Silence[/ame]

[ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=647557226072017066"]Iraq vet talks about the war[/ame]

LINKS
More than one million Iraqis have died as a result of the conflict in their country since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003

What are US troops doing in Iraq
 
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I don't think China has the maturity level to govern the world much less themselves. It seems the arrogant commie government throws a tantrum whenever someone does something they don't like. For instance there is a thread here about China revoking a Canadian universities' accreditation because they let the Dalai Llama speak on their campus. The Chinese government is like an arrogant child with a tantrum issue, I predict that China will implode economically.
 
The Chinese government is like an arrogant child with a tantrum issue, I predict that China will implode economically.

How does one follow the other?
 
It's not American claims, that's YOUR HATRED towards America coming out. Other countries have raised the same issue. China buys and exports, but they purposefully undervalue their currency which in essence cheapens imports for them while making exports more expensive. This hits all of us. There has been a lot of talk about this issue with China. Their purposeful manipulation of the market against import/export while subsidizing their purchases. This is real, it has a measurable effect, the effect has been measured. Your refusal to see it is either rooted in complete blinding BIAS or IGNORANCE. So take your pick on that one.

So what? China is just competing like the rest. Dont even be from the US and mention this point, especially considering the US have controlled and manipulated the currency market for at least 50 years.

I have merely stated that it is within the proper power of the United States to institute a floating tariff which accounts for this purposeful manipulation. You seem to think that America can't protect its own currency or that we deserve what we get. And that's just you being ignorant. Talk about extremists...that's the group YOU'RE in.

Nah, I just think its sick that you cry over Chinas way of competing and progressing, and then you have completely forgot how the US manipulated and controlled currency.
 
Why do people keep making polls like this with yes or no as the only options.
 
I don't think China has the maturity level to govern the world much less themselves. It seems the arrogant commie government throws a tantrum whenever someone does something they don't like. For instance there is a thread here about China revoking a Canadian universities' accreditation because they let the Dalai Llama speak on their campus. The Chinese government is like an arrogant child with a tantrum issue, I predict that China will implode economically.

Lets welcome them to where the US is then...

911 and their reaction. And the US economic collapse.
 
I love American as long as it stays an open society. Appatentlz Russia is more worth loving.
 
come on, the US is trying to push the focus away from their own desperate economic situation.
 
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