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    Re: Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    You guys had to defend you freedom with wars in foreign countries. China will spend its money wisely and won't be that power crazy and won't be dragged into wars.
    What about China's claims to virtually the entire South China Sea?

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    Re: Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Wikipedia.
    Very credible.
    Did you bother to check the sources? I guess BBC is not a credible source

    China doesnt sell their reserves to the US, nor anyone. They could, but they dont.

    Not Chinas fault the US is selling all that reserve and are over consuming.
    There is no need, as they employ a positive current account balance, and a massively negative financial account balance. Current account + financial account = ???? Maximus JK

    Your opinion of over consuming is unnecessary. They require the US to have a negative trade balance in order to fuel their export machine. The US stops consuming and China goes to ****.

    Just because most people jumps of a cliff dont mean everyone have to.
    What is the meaning of this comment? I suppose a clean floating system would be more "fair", however this would require all nations to implement completely privatized central banking institutions. All or nothing, otherwise those who "mingle" will have a serious advantage over those who do not.

    Like the US does the same with imports.
    Dead wrong once again, and not a surprise. We can clearly see the impact of the US dirty floating. The value of the dollar is decreasing, forcing China to further devalue their Yuan relative to non dollar pairs (putting tremendous downward pressure on the Renminbi). This drastically reduces China's marginal propensity to import, which drastically reduces their peoples standard of living.

    What? Never said I was an expert on forex. I just said my opinion. And it being so much more correct than your at the time, must have made you think I am an expert.
    Oh Max.... I would never think of you as an expert of FOREX. Maybe an expert in hating the US, but of anything that revolves around finance, economics, politics, etc... no you are not an expert. Your posts are a testament
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    Re: Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Where do you get that stuff from? "horrible repressive government"? China is rather quite free, and the government is doing an amazing job in raising everyones propserity and freedom. Just because its not called capitalis democracy, doesnt make it worse.

    They arent doing anything to your currency. You are selling them your currency. The only thing China does it set its exchange rate to the dollar.
    First off, the censorship and oppression of the people of China is staggering. Saying it's quite free shows you know nothing of the issue. Or that you have no idea what "free" means.

    Secondly, they use their state banks and subsidies to affect our currency and the valuation of theirs. They do it on purpose, fine but I have no problem then with a floating tariff to offset their monkeying.
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    Re: Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

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    Re: Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

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    I can understand your concern about personal attacks. What I don't understand is your tolerance of racism. My wife is Chinese. The blood of the Han flows through the veins of my sons.

    I will not tolerate any reference to "Chinaman" in any forum in which I participate. DP's willingness to tolerate racism means there is no place for me here. Forget about the imposition of an infraction. Clean up your act. Farewell.

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    Re: Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Where do you get that stuff from? "horrible repressive government"? China is rather quite free, and the government is doing an amazing job in raising everyones propserity and freedom. Just because its not called capitalis democracy, doesnt make it worse.

    They arent doing anything to your currency. You are selling them your currency. The only thing China does it set its exchange rate to the dollar.
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    Amnesty International has documented widespread human rights violations in China. An estimated 500,000 people are currently enduring punitive detention without charge or trial, and millions are unable to access the legal system to seek redress for their grievances. Harassment, surveillance, house arrest, and imprisonment of human rights defenders are on the rise, and censorship of the Internet and other media has grown. Repression of minority groups, including Tibetans, Uighurs and Mongolians, and of Falun Gong practitioners and Christians who practice their religion outside state-sanctioned churches continues. While the recent reinstatement of Supreme People's Court review of death penalty cases may result in lower numbers of executions, China remains the leading executioner in the world.

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    Wake up Maximus.

    Provide evidence or leave this debate. China is on the list of every major Human Rights Violations Group in the world.
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    Re: Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
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    I can understand your concern about personal attacks. What I don't understand is your tolerance of racism. My wife is Chinese. The blood of the Han flows through the veins of my sons.

    I will not tolerate any reference to "Chinaman" in any forum in which I participate. DP's willingness to tolerate racism means there is no place for me here. Forget about the imposition of an infraction. Clean up your act. Farewell.
    If you had simply stated your case like you just have here, instead of lowering yourself to the level of the racist, that would have been great. Work from a position of high moral values and intelligent discussion. Now, it is you that is being warned and you that are getting blamed instead of a person that might be racist.

    Another thing, that person might simply be ignorant that the term might offend a person, to be honest. We have speakers of many languages and perhaps that is the best translation they could make, who knows?
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    Re: Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    If you had simply stated your case like you just have here, instead of lowering yourself to the level of the racist, that would have been great. Work from a position of high moral values and intelligent discussion. Now, it is you that is being warned and you that are getting blamed instead of a person that might be racist.

    Another thing, that person might simply be ignorant that the term might offend a person, to be honest. We have speakers of many languages and perhaps that is the best translation they could make, who knows?
    Since you've called me out I'll respond to you. You are correct that I lowered myself to the level of the racist I challenged. This I regret.

    However, there is a more important point that you and DP have missed. The racist used the phrase "the average Chinaman." While some forum members may have missed the racist innuendo of the phrase you can rest assured that the DP Mods are not ignorant of the racist connotation.

    What did the Mods do about the expression of racism in question? They did nothing other than tolerate it. This is why there is no room for me here.

    Now, don't respond to me or invoke my moniker, or I'll come back with a further critique.

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    Re: Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Since you've called me out I'll respond to you. You are correct that I lowered myself to the level of the racist I challenged. This I regret.

    However, there is a more important point that you and DP have missed. The racist used the phrase "the average Chinaman." While some forum members may have missed the racist innuendo of the phrase you can rest assured that the DP Mods are not ignorant of the racist connotation.

    What did the Mods do about the expression of racism in question? They did nothing other than tolerate it. This is why there is no room for me here.

    Now, don't respond to me or invoke my moniker, or I'll come back with a further critique.
    Invoke? What are you...some sort of God?

    Critique of me or the issue that you feel is evident? What should the person have said, Chinese Person? Chinese Man?

    Chinaman  /ˈtʃaɪnəmən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [chahy-nuh-muhn] Show IPA
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    –noun, plural -men. 1. Usually Offensive. a Chinese or a person of Chinese descent.
    2. (lowercase) a person who imports or sells china.
    3. (often lowercase) Political Slang. a person regarded as one's benefactor, sponsor, or protector: to see one's chinaman about a favor.


    It is "usually" offensive. Not always, but Usually... Chinaman is not Nigger or Slope or Chink or Spick or Spook or Coon or Cracker or anywere near what most people would consider racist. I am not defending the term, just your rage over it might be a tad bit misplaced. Just think about it...
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    Re: Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Imagine China who is growing up in the 21st century with the same economic intensity per person as Japan.



    Japans economy is incredibly high tech, it "grew up" later than the US economy which is far more diverse and much less high tech. The Japanese nation is also half the population of the US, on a tiny patch of land on an Island. Incomparible with China, Europe and the US.
    Things blew up there due to the stupid government actions. China's government is very capable of blowing the whole things up
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