View Poll Results: Did the US adapt the methods, foreign policy and state power of NAZI Germany.

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  • Yes, clearly

    10 7.69%
  • Yes, a lot of it

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  • Yes, somewhat

    6 4.62%
  • Hmm, maybe

    3 2.31%
  • Dont know, dont care

    1 0.77%
  • Yes, its proving a good strategy

    0 0%
  • Yes, I support it

    1 0.77%
  • No, not really

    19 14.62%
  • No, not at all

    73 56.15%
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Thread: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    the Americans are doing what they can to get the socialists and socialism out of government to forestall this.
    The US is the foremost example of corporate socialism. However I am not saying the US is doing it exactly the same as the NAZIs did, or have the same ideology.
    I am not saying every part is identical, or because I compare the Republicans with the NAZI party, that they support socialism, but rather that they use the same methods for a similar type of extremist ideology.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    This is Bollocks.

    You can be nationalistic without being like the nazis. You can favor free-markets and corporations without being like the nazis. You can invade and occupy another county without turning its industries to your favor and thus without being like the nazis.

    This is the stupidest, hack poll I have seen at DP. All it does is stroke the ego of it's ideologically corrupted mind of the author.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Ah, no, don't try to make socialism out to be some beautiful thing infected by capitalism.

    Socialism is the colon cancer of political ideology, and to embrace it means the inevitable colostomy bag forever.

    Corporate entities have too much power over government for one reason, and one reason only....governments that have too much power always sell control of that power to the highest bidder.

    Limit the power available to government, and the desire of individuals and groups to seize that power declines.

    Just keep focused on the fact that the so-called health-care debate is nothing more than a means of expending government power, to cite one example.

    Governments surrender accrued power by one method and only the one method: armed revolt or threats thereof.

    Socialists and their insistence on expanding the power of government are on the morally wrong side of these issues.

    Oh, and don't forget, because I don't, Nazi Germany was National Socailist Germany.
    Do you even know what socialism is?

    Quote Originally Posted by encyclopedia britannica
    Because “social control” may be interpreted in widely diverging ways, socialism ranges from statist to libertarian, from Marxist to liberal. The term was first used to describe the doctrines of Charles Fourier, Henri de Saint-Simon, and Robert Owen, who emphasized noncoercive communities of people working noncompetitively for the spiritual and physical well-being of all (see utopian socialism). Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, seeing socialism as a transition state between capitalism and communism, appropriated what they found useful in socialist movements to develop their “scientific socialism.” In the 20th century, the Soviet Union was the principal model of strictly centralized socialism, while Sweden and Denmark were well-known for their noncommunist socialism.
    Like all Americans you are led into ignorance about socialism, where its used as a curse word by people who dont know what it means. The irrational fear of socialism in the US is based on nothing but complete ignorance.
    What is wrong with everyone having enough????
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    The average European....

    Insulting America in order to appease internal personal turmoils about the depravity of their own continent. Of all the empires or civilizations in history to seek similarity to (Greek, Roman, British) they will always seek their own Nazi Germany in order to soothe their history.

    Of any of the nations in the west to resemble Germany, one could make easy argument over France's behaviors in Algeria where hundreds of thousands were publicly tortured. But making comparisons to Germany would have been unthinkable back then because people's memories were still very clear on the matter. Today? A few waterboarding cases make us Nazis. The ignorant throw a parade after every American stumble and such stumbles absolutely have to be compared to Nazi Germany, don't they? It's fashionable in anti-Americanist Europe. Hell, today Germany isn't even guilty for its past. We call it "Nazi" Germany as if separate from the whole. America doesn't even get that pathetic consideration by those who seek to frangrance their stench.
    Great, a supporter of the American ideas, again lashing out against Europeans in general, and protecting whatever his leadership back in the US thinks should apply.

    I dont want to compare you to a NAZI soldier, but then again, they also blindly followed the ideology the political class forced on them, without even understanding it.

    Its not a few waterboarding cases that makes US current political ideology close to the NAZI ideology, its the whole thing, the whole package, especially that one of the Republican party who seemingly have adopted the methods of the NAZI German empire to their own needs.

    Torture by the way is illegal and disgusting no matter if its done by NAZI Germany, the US, France of Jesus Christ.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Your parody of some crack pot loser retarded leftist idiot making a retarded comparison of the US to Nazi Germany while probably at the same time offending jews and everyone else who lived through the holocaust is fantastic. Almost convincing. Two thumbs up. Those morons who make asinine comparisons of the US to Nazi Germany are ****en retarded. I think those retards are the reason why a lot of people think that you should have to pass a IQ test to vote or to breed.
    Nope. I never offended a jew. Why the hell should I?

    I wouldnt mind an IQ test for voting and breeding, but then again, I dont believe in a police state, so I probably would not support that because it goes against the freedom of the individuals.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Perhaps you can shed some light then. Our European critics never criticize without seeking their own past to do it....

    Why is it that no matter what America does, there is always the quest to compare America to the worst Europeans have to offer? During the 80s Europeans were fond of expressing how America was going to bring about the end of the world (and mass protests and negative polls ensued). During the 90s Europeans expressed their disgust over Bosnia and Kosovo despite the human carnage that was going igbnored by Europeans before we even got there and forced a hand. And over the last decade we have been compared to Nazis and even as far as labeled as Germany's equivelent.

    Always, Europeans seek the worst scenario and attach America to it. My perspective on European "denial" is more about soothing internal turmoils than it is about fantacizing a different past.
    We are so aware of our past that we do not want America to fall in the same traps and commit the same mistakes.
    America seemingly isnt that aware of European past mistakes, and are not so wary of commiting the same mistakes we have done in the past.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    There's also that little difference in the actual action taken by each nation that you've forgotten to mention.
    Like what? What is the big difference in action taken?

    Americans are in a crusade against Muslims in general, invading several countries they find stategically good to invade to invade others afterwards, to force their ideology onto them. That is about the same **** the NAZIs tried, just in their case it was jews, homoes and so fourth, not Muslims.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Overall no..

    Certain aspects yes... but that can be also attributed to fascism and even communism oddly enough.

    For example.. the oath of allegiance and the near worship of a flag or other symbols of government... like the military.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    A few similarities:
    1) Some in our government and people are advocating and even sometimes demanding all out socialism, people tend to forget that the Nazi party was a socialist party.
    2) The UHC debate, that was one of the "benevolent" things the Nazi SS party did before alot of innocent people were tortured and slaughtered.
    3) Gun control: They instituted it almost immediately, we have nut cases that dare to challenge the second amendment and every once in a while do win some battles, they only have to win big once for that to happen here.
    4) Book burning: While it isn't here yet, there are "emergency powers" that were talked about only a few months ago pertaining to any emergency that would fit the president's definition. That thing would be rife with abuse.

    Where we differ:
    1) No genocide
    2) Our "dear leader" is probably not going to be reelected
    3) We fight socialism with a fervor, or at least a good bit of us do
    4) We attempt to cooperate with other nations, not conquer them, our deeds are sometimes not recieved well, that's life.
    In the case of the US things move much slower over a much longer period of time. People are talking more and more of gun control, it seems more and more likely.
    The US republican party being similar doesnt mean identical, doesnt have to be socialism, even though they do support socialism. Its a different ideology, different agenda, with the same methods as the NAZIs used, the same tactics, the same results.
    There is no need for book burning when people are mad ignorant in other ways.
    No genocide you say? How many arabs/muslims have the US killed since 911, and how many yet to be killed?
    It doesnt matter who your leader are, they all work towards the same goal. that is the problems of a two party democracy. No matter who you vote for or against, the policies they agree on will always be implemented, no matter if the people knows about it/support it or not.
    You may fight socialism/communism in meaning providing all people with what they need, type of socialism. But the corporations/wall street/banks are the beneifciour of US socialism.
    You dont cooperate with other nations, the past 15 years is clear proof of that, you dont even cooperate with allies. You invade countries and try to force them to follow your own ideology, which isnt really a good ideology.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Words cannot describe how tired I am of Naziism and Hiter being used as the platform for all arguments. Please pick up a damn history book and learn about something OTHER than WWII.
    Perhaps you should read the history about the past 20-even 50 years of US politics, then read the history about how NAZIs came to power. Then you should read about current events in the US the past 50 years, and the post NAZI current events.

    It would scare the **** out of you.
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