View Poll Results: Did the US adapt the methods, foreign policy and state power of NAZI Germany.

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  • Yes, clearly

    10 7.69%
  • Yes, a lot of it

    10 7.69%
  • Yes, somewhat

    6 4.62%
  • Hmm, maybe

    3 2.31%
  • Dont know, dont care

    1 0.77%
  • Yes, its proving a good strategy

    0 0%
  • Yes, I support it

    1 0.77%
  • No, not really

    19 14.62%
  • No, not at all

    73 56.15%
  • Other(specify)..

    7 5.38%
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It is not that they can't be held accountable, it is that the "people" are apathetic and let the politicians get away with crap.
    I believe there is possibly a reason for it. That the political class is manipulating the people into these traps, and using the possibility to exploit the f*** out of the situation. I believe propaganda and misleading is the tool, and result is the current disasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    China is free to fight any group or nation that attacks it. The US is far from just running around attacking people. There are groups within China that are fighting and if they are being backed by Turkmanistan or whatever, then China is free to stop it.
    Thats not what I asked.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myself/MZ
    So, you believe it would be okay if China fought the accepted enemies of communism when they are strong enough to bully everyone around? (which is just what you are saying is acceptable with US ideology)
    Would you find is okay if China attacked Australia, Canada, or any other country to "spread communism(the right model IN THEIR VIEW) and stop the democratic terrorism and oppressive regimes, and terrorist right wing leader".


    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    The system is perfect, the people just don't care.
    The system is imperfect and the people do not care.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Yep, and the people need to stay vigilant.
    With all the(even in the west) indoctrination, nationalism, propaganda, manipulation and lack of interest, lack of political education and awareness making, is it really possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    If you look at the Constitution adn the Bill of Rights, they are airtight. The people don't hold the politicians accountable, they could. We could all go to town meetings and watch C-Span and write the politicians about our demands and if they didn't follow through, they would be voted out. If this actually happened instead of the majority of morons out there believing the politicians and voting along party lines no matter what, they you would see the near perfect system that I understand and love.
    I dont entirely agree. I believe the best of this system must be used, and communism/socialism be added to it. I believe in no individual represeting power, nor do I believe in political careers. I think I would prefer a solid political education in primary school, and drafting of people into political institutions instead of elections. I believe ina one party system where everyone is made into voting independent, and I believe in peoples power in form of established areas of politics where people decide by referendum. I also believe in elder councils(old people always knows best, we have to listen to them), I also believe power should be split up between local, regional, national/state and federal/national levels, with a balance of power that is equal. Furthermore I dont believe in election of law enforcement(judges, sherrifs and so fourth). I also believe in surveilance of leadership, police, military and so fourth as oppose to surveilance of the people.

    I believe in a different type of society.

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    I think that our system is the best, and that is me. I think that all people and all right are protected best. You avoid the socially inept and lazy that would sloth about in Communism. The one problem is the apathetic people in democracy. Those that let corporations buy politicians and not hold them accountable.
    Housing, water, food, health care should all be part of the communist market. The rest should be a free but regulated market, where greater equality between the bottom and the top should be a clear goal, and worked into a different money system. I also believe in rewards and person triumph for individuals who do great in their lives, and the reward of such efforts. I dont believe in super luxury for the minority, and I do not believe in hunger and poverty.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I am probably a bigger jackass buddy...

    The difference is that I am also extremely balanced and, IMO, more open and less angry than you, that is all.
    I am angry with the state of things. I am however quite open.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    The problem with this whold thing is that it was a geopolitical plan of the extreme right wing elite, but that doesn't negate the very real threat presented from Radical Islamists either. This is not a black/white issue, and that is too much for black/white thinkers like you. That is not an insult, just an observation. I think that everything is bound and interwoven, many don't. Many to most have an opinion and can't let go of it. It has to be this. It has to be that.
    Why do you think my nickname is Maximus Zeebra? I know the blacks and the whites too well. But only by knowing them can I appropriately understand the gray(which in this case is reality).

    I also think things are bound and interwoven.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post

    Why do you think my nickname is Maximus Zeebra? .
    Because you are an obese bichromatic ungulate?
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Because you are an obese bichromatic ungulate?
    Ignored list for you and post reported.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Ignored list for you and post reported.
    Well his comment was quite funny.
    At least show a sense of humor, it wouldn't kill anyone would it?
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Well his comment was quite funny.
    At least show a sense of humor, it wouldn't kill anyone would it?
    I agree. I thought his choice of words where well chosen. Even if I don't know what 50% of them are.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Well his comment was quite funny.
    At least show a sense of humor, it wouldn't kill anyone would it?
    I would have if he had on my post..

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I believe there is possibly a reason for it. That the political class is manipulating the people into these traps, and using the possibility to exploit the f*** out of the situation. I believe propaganda and misleading is the tool, and result is the current disasters.
    I just did a huge thought provoking repsonse to you, and Internet Explorer shut down on me, so this one will be more concise.

    Of course they are exploiting the hell out of the apathy of the people.

    Thats not what I asked.

    Would you find is okay if China attacked Australia, Canada, or any other country to "spread communism(the right model IN THEIR VIEW) and stop the democratic terrorism and oppressive regimes, and terrorist right wing leader".
    If Australia was terrorist and they supported terrorists that attacked Chinese citizens, China itself or Chinese interests around the world and then China responded with force, and as a result they set up a friendly system of government that supported peace and security and trade, then I would have no problem with it at all. The USA did not use force to "spread democracy" though... they used force to "spread stability" to a violent and oppressive region that was using terror to terrorize too.

    With all the(even in the west) indoctrination, nationalism, propaganda, manipulation and lack of interest, lack of political education and awareness making, is it really possible?
    Indoctrination? Examples please...

    I dont entirely agree. I believe the best of this system must be used, and communism/socialism be added to it. I believe in no individual represeting power, nor do I believe in political careers. I think I would prefer a solid political education in primary school, and drafting of people into political institutions instead of elections. I believe ina one party system where everyone is made into voting independent, and I believe in peoples power in form of established areas of politics where people decide by referendum. I also believe in elder councils(old people always knows best, we have to listen to them), I also believe power should be split up between local, regional, national/state and federal/national levels, with a balance of power that is equal. Furthermore I dont believe in election of law enforcement(judges, sherrifs and so fourth). I also believe in surveilance of leadership, police, military and so fourth as oppose to surveilance of the people.

    I believe in a different type of society.
    Greater emphasis could be put on the importance of politics, I agree. The rest is already kinda what we have here, to a degree.

    Housing, water, food, health care should all be part of the communist market. The rest should be a free but regulated market, where greater equality between the bottom and the top should be a clear goal, and worked into a different money system. I also believe in rewards and person triumph for individuals who do great in their lives, and the reward of such efforts. I dont believe in super luxury for the minority, and I do not believe in hunger and poverty.
    We have major elements of Socialism already in the USA, have had so for 70 years.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    it wouldn't kill anyone would it?
    In my case, it received an infraction.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I think there is a rule against changing somebody's name like that. Now, if you called me "sport" or something, that would be different.

    If you cared to understand my counterpoint issued to you, you would read that I was addressing that you are not the authority on what the stereotype actually is, since there is no stereotype except your opinion, hence, your opinion is just that, and it is anything but correct.

    Another point, Muslims are everywhere in the USA. In fact, they are worldwide.

    If stating that your opinion is invalid makes me righteous, then whatever... but it is certainly not wasted to point out to a person is looking through a narrow scope instead of taking on the bigger picture. *shrugs* I just see a couple of people talking, if you see something else, perhaps you are insecure and have other issues that you should think on.
    Sorry about renaming you. But stereotypes do exist and not just in my own head though you may enjoy attempting to condescend to me.

    "Asians are good at math" is an example which shoots down what you said. Its an existing stereotype that everyone knows. Another one is "Muslims are terrorists".

    It is not an opinion bodhi, though you would of course attempt to disprove that stereotypically homogenized white americans in many regions of the country are somewhat anti-muslim. Luckily you don't seem to have experienced it yet. Nice for you.

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