View Poll Results: Did the US adapt the methods, foreign policy and state power of NAZI Germany.

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  • Yes, a lot of it

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  • Yes, somewhat

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  • Hmm, maybe

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  • Yes, its proving a good strategy

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  • No, not really

    19 14.62%
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    There are similarities between any two countries, and any two governments, simply by the nature of what countries and governments are. So yes, there are some similarities, but we are not becoming "like" nazi Germany. Not Bush, not Obama, not Bush the elder, not Reagan, not any president or congress in my lifetime has moved us to be in any significant way like nazi Germany. Those on both sides who make nazi comparisons are either ignorant, or irrational.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    There are similarities between any two countries, and any two governments, simply by the nature of what countries and governments are. So yes, there are some similarities, but we are not becoming "like" nazi Germany. Not Bush, not Obama, not Bush the elder, not Reagan, not any president or congress in my lifetime has moved us to be in any significant way like nazi Germany. Those on both sides who make nazi comparisons are either ignorant, or irrational.
    Obviously the U.S. will never be Nazi Germany, but an ultra-nationalistic militarist police state marked by hysteria, xenophobia, anti-intellectualism, exceptionalist and expansionist foreign policies etc., etc. is very much a possibility. To a significant extent those elements (or their foundations) are already in place.

    Check out Free Republic sometime for example. It's very easy to find open fantasies of genocide against Muslims, turning the middle east into a "big glass parking lot," etc. The notion that racism is dead in the U.S. is also dead-wrong. People dismiss FR as fringe; if by "fringe" you mean "strongly reflecting the attitudes of at least tens of millions of Americans," I agree.

    And times of truly severe economic crisis in the U.S. (along the lines of the Great Depression) have not even hit yet. Should that happen, these tendencies will likely grow much stronger. To assume otherwise is just wishful thinking.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    I voted "no, not at all", but then again, the United States did recently elect a charismatic leader promising the moon who's working hard to destroy the country.

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sov View Post
    Obviously the U.S. will never be Nazi Germany, but an ultra-nationalistic militarist police state marked by hysteria, xenophobia, anti-intellectualism, exceptionalist and expansionist foreign policies etc., etc. is very much a possibility. To a significant extent those elements (or their foundations) are already in place.
    the Americans are doing what they can to get the socialists and socialism out of government to forestall this.

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    What an asinine O.P. notion.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    the Americans are doing what they can to get the socialists and socialism out of government to forestall this.
    I'm no fan of Obama or most Democrats (e.g. too many unprincipled centrists) but unfortunately most of their conservative critics are big supporters of war "socialism" and corporate "socialism" (which are just as "socialist" as anything supported by the Democrats). It's hard to think of anything more statist, collectivist, and big government than the military or police state. "Defense" contractors and most corporations for that matter are far bigger welfare queens than anyone in the ghetto.

    *Note: none of these "socialisms" are what I consider real socialism, but what's good for the goose....
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sov View Post
    I'm no fan of Obama or most Democrats (e.g. too many unprincipled centrists) but unfortunately most of their conservative critics are big supporters of war "socialism" and corporate "socialism" (which are just as "socialist" as anything supported by the Democrats). It's hard to think of anything more statist, collectivist, and big government than the military or police state. "Defense" contractors and most corporations for that matter are far bigger welfare queens than anyone in the ghetto.

    *Note: none of these "socialisms" are what I consider real socialism, but what's good for the goose....
    Ah, no, don't try to make socialism out to be some beautiful thing infected by capitalism.

    Socialism is the colon cancer of political ideology, and to embrace it means the inevitable colostomy bag forever.

    Corporate entities have too much power over government for one reason, and one reason only....governments that have too much power always sell control of that power to the highest bidder.

    Limit the power available to government, and the desire of individuals and groups to seize that power declines.

    Just keep focused on the fact that the so-called health-care debate is nothing more than a means of expending government power, to cite one example.

    Governments surrender accrued power by one method and only the one method: armed revolt or threats thereof.

    Socialists and their insistence on expanding the power of government are on the morally wrong side of these issues.

    Oh, and don't forget, because I don't, Nazi Germany was National Socailist Germany.

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    This has to be the irrelevant comparison yet.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Warhawks remind me of Nazis.
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