View Poll Results: Did the US adapt the methods, foreign policy and state power of NAZI Germany.

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  • Yes, clearly

    10 7.69%
  • Yes, a lot of it

    10 7.69%
  • Yes, somewhat

    6 4.62%
  • Hmm, maybe

    3 2.31%
  • Dont know, dont care

    1 0.77%
  • Yes, its proving a good strategy

    0 0%
  • Yes, I support it

    1 0.77%
  • No, not really

    19 14.62%
  • No, not at all

    73 56.15%
  • Other(specify)..

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Burning the flag of another nation is probably the most stupid thing simple people can do. You choose to glorify the stupid act in an avatar. Perhaps you should ask what it does for you? Does it make you feel cozy? It simply reminds me of who you are.
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    I dont give a **** if you burn up a European flag right in front of me, nor a Norwegian flag or any other flag, I dont give a ****. Its a flag, and I am not an ultra nationalist nor ultra federalist.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    And according to the poll 70% disagree. Not to mention the baseless and unsupported information he tried to use.

    Go figure.
    Are you drawing the "majority is always right" card?

    Please also in the same time when you answer that, give me an indication about how many percent of a society is in the top 10% smart group of a society?
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Perhaps thats part of a broader propaganda. TO make you focus on that, and forget the possibility that there could be others, faced with government "transparency".



    SOME soldiers, not by far all who deserves it. Its only made an example of a few, including NATO soldiers.
    A lot of German soldiers were tried for treason and wrongdoings. Killing jews and so fourth wasnt considered a wrong doing by the German state at that time.



    You have already killed and wounded millions of Muslims since 911. Also you have put a gun to their face and try to force them against their own conviction, to accept your conviction.

    I am sure, the NAZIs if they did the same, would face far more success. What you seem to miss is that I am not directly comparing the US to NAZI Germany, I am just saying it learned the methods of NAZI Germany and are now taking them into use themselves. And for what purpose? Who ****ing knows?



    Hitler had enourmous support after the Reichtag fire, he had substantial support in elections before he came to power as well. Bush had enourmous support, but instead of a führer, the US have come up with a better scheme, a "legitimate democratic" president, "elected" by the people, to serve "the people". You just dont see the narrow ways your democracy works as oppose to how a democracy should work, and how corruption of power should have been dealt with a long time.
    I didnt say complete devotion to your leader, but your parties. Not far from at least. Considering how similar those parties really are, its quite scary. 50% of their agenda, AT LEAST, is the same. You only get to select the **** they serve you in elections, or select the other ****.




    I ALWAYS answer the questions. Perhaps you just dont understand the answers.
    Don't flatter yourself. There is answering the question and then there is answering the question. One can be done simply with any answer and the other is done with a thoughtful and fact oriented response. You again only offered the former, not the later. Thank you for sharing your opinions, which are again baseless and subjective smear-mongering....
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Not really but if you want to wear a tin foil hat, be my guest.
    Everyone who isnt like you or disagree with you wear a "tin foil hat", what is that?

    Everyone who is open to more possibilities then you are concpiracy theorists?


    Or, actually, anyone who disagree with you or your party are concpiracy theorists or idiots?

    Is that your insight here?


    If you werent so closed down you would actually listen to concpiracy theorists and not always ule out things that arent majority opinion as "tin foil hat stuff".. At least try to understand them, they always have valid points, even if you cant agree with the broader theory, because most points seems unlikely. At least weight things up against each other before taking the "majority stand".
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Let's see here. Once central tenet of Nazi Germany was the relentless persecution of Jews -- a more a salient feature of their rhetoric one would be hard pressed to find.

    In looking around the world today, I do recognize some virulently antisemitic rhetoric arising from the right -- the neo nazis, many of the self described libertarians, crackpot conspiracy theorists and other thoroughly margianilized people who do not reflect mainstream conservatism in the least, and who are in no position of power, certainly not in the United States.


    The Republicans tell you that libertarians are anti-semetic. Thats new man, thanks for the laugh. Liberterians are the only people willing to defend your constitution, even when the weak majority have given up.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    When I look at Europe, however, I see antisemitism endemic in the very fabric of those considering themselves socialists, the European left being so beholden to Islmists that their routine defense of Islamism routinely crosses the line into antisemitism.
    WHAT? Islamophobia is at least as big as anti-semitism. And its adopted from the US. Both groups are idiots, quite a small group of idiots.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    THese are not margainilized opinions, either, but mainstream -- so mainstream that elected officials in many western European countries are so cowed by Islamists that they have all but thrown in their lot with them, and by doing so, have become little more than their agents.
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    Who gave you these golden jokes? FoxNews and their attempt to have the American people support further wars?


    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Sure, the rhetoric is all couched today in Islamist terms, utilizes various rhetorical slights of hand whereby the antisemites try to avoid charges they are antisemitic, and is generally so indirect and politically correct as to be unrecognizeable by many who are not their target, but the age old hatred is a palpable thing, and very, VERY much part and parcel of a large portion of the European left.
    Europeans just want all the people of the earth to prosper. Europeans in general are now against wars and violence, which is why we use incentives to bring good changes to other nations. Not force, idealism, retoric, fear and oppression like the US. We dont do that.
    Europeans just wants what is best for everyone, and are now less and less blinded by retoric, extremism, propaganda and so fourth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    IMO, those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. If we are to compare anybody to Nazis, we should compare them to what Nazis were really all about. In this regard, there really isn't any comparison between the United States and Europe.
    You obviously didnt understand the OP.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Don't flatter yourself. There is answering the question and then there is answering the question. One can be done simply with any answer and the other is done with a thoughtful and fact oriented response. You again only offered the former, not the later. Thank you for sharing your opinions, which are again baseless and subjective smear-mongering....
    Really? Thats exactly what I think of your opinions as well. Nice discussion..
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Are you drawing the "majority is always right" card?

    Please also in the same time when you answer that, give me an indication about how many percent of a society is in the top 10% smart group of a society?
    The same percent that is in the top 10 dumbest, really.







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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    The same percent that is in the top 10 dumbest, really.







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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Everyone who isnt like you or disagree with you wear a "tin foil hat", what is that?

    Everyone who is open to more possibilities then you are concpiracy theorists?


    Or, actually, anyone who disagree with you or your party are concpiracy theorists or idiots?

    Is that your insight here?


    If you werent so closed down you would actually listen to concpiracy theorists and not always ule out things that arent majority opinion as "tin foil hat stuff".. At least try to understand them, they always have valid points, even if you cant agree with the broader theory, because most points seems unlikely. At least weight things up against each other before taking the "majority stand".
    Please point out one, just one conspiracy theory that has been true in the last 50 years?

    Not everyone, just the stupid people who believe in them.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Really? Thats exactly what I think of your opinions as well. Nice discussion..
    You are making a suggestion that is nothing but opinionated and when asked for something tangible, you give nothing. I called you on it and then you do this psychologically warped "projection" thing claiming that I do what I label you as doing?

    Okee dokee!

    SOME soldiers, not by far all who deserves it. Its only made an example of a few, including NATO soldiers.
    A lot of German soldiers were tried for treason and wrongdoings. Killing jews and so fourth wasnt considered a wrong doing by the German state at that time.
    What evidence do you have that any German soldiers were ever tried for crimes against their enemies? That is pure horse ****. Were some tried for treason against Hitler? Sure... but that is not the point and you know it, that happens here as well. WE are talking about illegal acts against Jews, Muslims, etc... Stay on point if you can.

    You have already killed and wounded millions of Muslims since 911. Also you have put a gun to their face and try to force them against their own conviction, to accept your conviction.
    I haven't done anything of the sort. Say the USA if you mean the USA, since I and most people in the USA are not responsible for all of the governments actions, what we do is voice our opinions and then hold the government accountable for its actions, get it straight already.

    That being said, we are fighting an accepted enemy of the ideals of democracy. This isn't debatable. Should the USA, Britain and others adopt different approaches? We sure could, but to blame the USA for all of this is retarded. The UK has gone along all on their own, they could stand up and say no if they wanted to, jsut as others did. Australia and New Zealand and others are also involved. On a smaller level? Sure, but they are also smaller nations.

    I am sure, the NAZIs if they did the same, would face far more success. What you seem to miss is that I am not directly comparing the US to NAZI Germany, I am just saying it learned the methods of NAZI Germany and are now taking them into use themselves. And for what purpose? Who ****ing knows?
    We also adopted Democracy from Greece and Republic from Rome and the 1689 English Bill of Rights and the Magna Carta from England and the 1789 Declaration of Human Rights from France and ideas from Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. What is your point? Not everything that the Nazis did was evil, they did turn around the economy of Germany with social programs and public works projects.

    Hitler had enourmous support after the Reichtag fire, he had substantial support in elections before he came to power as well. Bush had enourmous support, but instead of a führer, the US have come up with a better scheme, a "legitimate democratic" president, "elected" by the people, to serve "the people". You just dont see the narrow ways your democracy works as oppose to how a democracy should work, and how corruption of power should have been dealt with a long time.
    What evidence have I given that shows that I don't see that our two-party system is flawed? Especially when I have stated that it is flawed numerous times?

    The construct of our system is near perfect, its application has been hijacked by rich politicians. Big difference...

    I didnt say complete devotion to your leader, but your parties. Not far from at least. Considering how similar those parties really are, its quite scary. 50% of their agenda, AT LEAST, is the same. You only get to select the **** they serve you in elections, or select the other ****.
    Yep, that is a big problem. I agree. So, how has the EU set up a perfect system that enables a poor kid from Liverpool a chance to be PM then? What can we learn from you and the godlike ways of the EU?

    I ALWAYS answer the questions. Perhaps you just dont understand the answers.
    What I meant by don't flatter yourself is that I am trying to bring you along, and if you think that I don't understand you... well...
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