View Poll Results: Did the US adapt the methods, foreign policy and state power of NAZI Germany.

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  • Yes, clearly

    10 7.69%
  • Yes, a lot of it

    10 7.69%
  • Yes, somewhat

    6 4.62%
  • Hmm, maybe

    3 2.31%
  • Dont know, dont care

    1 0.77%
  • Yes, its proving a good strategy

    0 0%
  • Yes, I support it

    1 0.77%
  • No, not really

    19 14.62%
  • No, not at all

    73 56.15%
  • Other(specify)..

    7 5.38%
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Thread: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I'm looking at it objectively, and using historical similarities, it has nothing to do with an argument.
    No you're not. You're looking at it from a purely right wing partisan view point in an attempt to compare this administration to the Nazi's while completely and utterly refusing to examine the situation pre-Obama administration and the similarities one might find there.

    You're not being objective, you're trying to do a hyper partisan hatchet job.

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    So post the definition from your encyclopedia and comment on fascism, already. I'm not going to do all your leg work.
    Fascism

    Quote Originally Posted by encyclopedia Britannica
    Philosophy of government that stresses the primacy and glory of the state, unquestioning obedience to its leader, subordination of the individual will to the state’s authority, and harsh suppression of dissent.

    Martial virtues are celebrated, while liberal and democratic values are disparaged. Fascism arose during the 1920s and ’30s partly out of fear of the rising power of the working classes; it differed from contemporary communism (as practiced under Joseph Stalin) by its protection of business and landowning elites and its preservation of class systems. The leaders of the fascist governments of Italy (1922–43), Germany (1933–45), and Spain (1939–75)—Benito Mussolini, Adolf Hitler, and Francisco Franco—were portrayed to their publics as embodiments of the strength and resolve necessary to rescue their nations from political and economic chaos. Japanese fascists (1936–45) fostered belief in the uniqueness of the Japanese spirit and taught subordination to the state and personal sacrifice. See also totalitarianism; neofascism.
    Fascism is what the Republicans does. Although its not completely implemented yet.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Says who? You?

    You offer nothing but baseless supposition and propaganda.
    This wasnt propaganda. It was just a question about you never questioning anything, and always opting for the most noble idea of the US, even in cases where you have no actual idea of reality.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Fascism

    Philosophy of government that stresses the primacy and glory of the state, unquestioning obedience to its leader, subordination of the individual will to the state’s authority, and harsh suppression of dissent.

    Martial virtues are celebrated, while liberal and democratic values are disparaged. Fascism arose during the 1920s and ’30s partly out of fear of the rising power of the working classes; it differed from contemporary communism (as practiced under Joseph Stalin) by its protection of business and landowning elites and its preservation of class systems. The leaders of the fascist governments of Italy (1922–43), Germany (1933–45), and Spain (1939–75)—Benito Mussolini, Adolf Hitler, and Francisco Franco—were portrayed to their publics as embodiments of the strength and resolve necessary to rescue their nations from political and economic chaos. Japanese fascists (1936–45) fostered belief in the uniqueness of the Japanese spirit and taught subordination to the state and personal sacrifice. See also totalitarianism; neofascism.
    Fascism is what the Republicans does. Although its not completely implemented yet.
    Oh so it isn't completely implemented yet. Well, which parts are implemented so far?

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Oh so it isn't completely implemented yet. Well, which parts are implemented so far?
    All except Harsh suppression of dissent. Its not that widespread nor harsh yet, but it will be.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    All except Harsh suppression of dissent. Its not that widespread nor harsh yet, but it will be.
    So you think that Republican control of the government means we have:

    • primacy and glory of the state
    • unquestioning obedience to its leader
    • subordination of the individual will to the state’s authority


    We most certainly do not have these. You are full of ****. You are on my ignore list.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Aside from the one in gitmo and those in Iraq, do you really have any concept of how many hidden prisons and camps the US has? Are you in control of everything your government and military is doing?

    Nor was the Germans, they knew nothing about no concentration camps, just a few "need to know" basis had any idea of what was going on, not even the purpetraitors always knew what was really going on..

    You have torture camps and illegal prisons in Iraq and Afganistan CERTAIN.
    Then please post evidence of these "camps." So you want us to assume based on what? The happenings in Nazi Germany?

    Your argument is so stupid I don't even know why I bothered.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra
    Aside from the one in gitmo and those in Iraq, do you really have any concept of how many hidden prisons and camps the US has? Are you in control of everything your government and military is doing?

    Nor was the Germans, they knew nothing about no concentration camps, just a few "need to know" basis had any idea of what was going on, not even the purpetraitors always knew what was really going on..

    You have torture camps and illegal prisons in Iraq and Afganistan CERTAIN.
    You say the German people didn't know, yet we today know about Gitmo and Abu Grab etc. Apparently we have more knowledge, freedom of the press, etc than they did. Your comparison their is a FAIL.

    Soldiers are brought to justice for doing things they shouldn't, post how may German soldiers and Nazis were tried and convicted of shooting Jews or throwing old Jew men out of fourth story windows? Good luck.

    What race or culture is being rounded up and killed at all, let alone in mass, as the Nazis did to the Jews? This should be interesting.

    As it has been mentioned, you seriously think that we have complete devotion to our leader? Bush? There were movies made about him describing him as a crook and a moron, how many movies were made about Hitler were there while Hitler was in power and please show us the ones that compare to Fahrenheit 911.

    Start with these in an honest way please. Actually answer the questions and please don't sidestep as you usually do when presented with questions that will sink your anti-America rhetoric.



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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Maximus Zeebra is right on the mark.

    There are many disturbing laws that have been past in the last decade that is setting the stage for disturbing times in America.

    One example....Any American can now be arrested and held FOREVER by simply saying they are a suspected terrorist and they DO NOT have due process of the law.

    It is only a matter of time until this disturbing law and others implimented after 9/11 event in the guise of our own protection will start to be used regularly.

    The Reichstag event did the exact same thing to Germany

    I just don't understand how the average American has a hard time perceiving anything past their own little world(bubble).
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Governments surrender accrued power by one method and only the one method: armed revolt or threats thereof.
    Socialists and their insistence on expanding the power of government are on the morally wrong side of these issues.
    Socialism is a stateless society achieved by armed revolution. But don't let that get in the way of your rant.
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