View Poll Results: Did the US adapt the methods, foreign policy and state power of NAZI Germany.

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  • Yes, clearly

    10 7.69%
  • Yes, a lot of it

    10 7.69%
  • Yes, somewhat

    6 4.62%
  • Hmm, maybe

    3 2.31%
  • Dont know, dont care

    1 0.77%
  • Yes, its proving a good strategy

    0 0%
  • Yes, I support it

    1 0.77%
  • No, not really

    19 14.62%
  • No, not at all

    73 56.15%
  • Other(specify)..

    7 5.38%
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    If we are in a police state, we are clearly headed for a revolution from within.

    I can't even get a motha ****a convicted of a speedin' charge in these silly ass courts....
    That's cause you're a ****ty cop. Haha. Sorry. Yeah stating we're a police state is retarded.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Great, a supporter of the American ideas, again lashing out against Europeans in general.....

    You do realize that by starting countless threads about how evil America is you have no room to cry when an American jumps on and throws a punch back. I mean this is a simple concept. What America hating thread does this make for you.....750?

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    We are so aware of our past that we do not want America to fall in the same traps and commit the same mistakes.
    You mean colonize the world, start World Wars, and ignore the mess that European borders created? Naziism? A European party. Communism? European party. The love affair of dictators? A European legacy. You see..we inherited your mistakes and have been dealing with them and receiving the blame ever since.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    America seemingly isnt that aware of European past mistakes, and are not so wary of commiting the same mistakes we have done in the past.
    Unaware?

    I'm assuming that you are aware of how your past mistakes sucked America in? Not once...not twice...not three times...but three and four times. World War I, World War II, Cold War, Bosnia, and Kosovo all sucked America into your temper tantrums, your inability to play nice, your inability to protect yourself, and your inability to recognize the "Yugoslavian" dangers that ignited World War I.

    I believe our blood has made us very aware of your past mistakes.

    The U.S. travels its own road. It will make its own mistakes and face them largely alone (something your continent didn't have to do). And lets not pretend that Europe doesn't only concern itself with America's doings only when its cut of our "paved road" and success is threatened.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    I would've thought that all of the GOP-Nazis who wanted to create a dictatorship connections would die down after they willingly left office when they lost to the Democrats. Guess I was wrong

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    No it's not. We have a mixed economy with socialist and market elements
    Dude, any sort of regulation of commerce is Socialism. If you don't believe it, just go ask the right wing whack-o-loons.

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sov View Post
    An incomplete list of tendencies in the U.S. which could also be found in Nazi Germany. Quick and offhand. Obviously many of these overlap. For the most part these are not quite as strong in the U.S., but in a crisis situation they could become much stronger to the point that what few civil liberties have been gained would be suspended indefinitely. Anyone who believes that a state-sponsored genocide could not happen again is extremely naive.

    1. Militarism
    2. "National security state"
    3. Police statism
    4. Unilateralism
    5. Anti-intellectualism
    6. Corporatism
    7. Right-wing Authoritarianism; "Fear-based" politics
    8. Ultra-nationalism
    9. Nativism/Xenophobia/Scapegoating
    10. Racist pseudoscience; advocacy of state-sponsored eugenics (e.g. Bell Curve, American Renaissance, CCC, Human Biodiversity Institute)
    11. Dumbed-down "faith based" politics (compare to "Positive Christianity")
    12. Sexual repression/hysteria
    13. Political Correctness (though supposedly of the "left" will be used by the authoritarian right when it suits their purposes)
    Other than the PC crap, none of your points has changed since this country's inception......

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    Dude, any sort of regulation of commerce is Socialism. If you don't believe it, just go ask the right wing whack-o-loons.
    Well I try not to listen whackaloons. The fact remains. We have a mixed economy
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's cause you're a ****ty cop. Haha. Sorry. Yeah stating we're a police state is retarded.
    No, actually its not me, the judge has to call me up and tell me why someone got let off quite frequently.......

    Because the ignorant first year out of law school DA's forget to law the proper foundation for my testimony and it has to be ignored.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    You should put the fact that you are from Norway, Western Europe in your profile, to distinguish yourself from someone from France say. All government communications and especially communications from political parties is propaganda.

    You live in Norway. You don't have a ****ing clue what happens here in America. You call us a nationalist fascist military state. That is the most asinine thing I have heard all month. We have all types here. There are those who are militarists and nationalists. I am one. This does not mean we are fascist, especially because most people are not militarists or nationalists. The mere fact that we have protests undisturbed against our military operations is clear evidence that we are not some fascist police state. Get real. Don't be an idiot.
    Actually there is a reason I put western Europe. I dont live in Norway, havent for many years. I have lived in the US. I have lived in many western European countries, almost all actually. I have a good clue what is happening in the US, I hear about it all the time, too much, in many languages from many different media, including US media, Russian media, Chinese media, internet, different European media, even African media. You might be militarist and nationalist, but not fascist, but your government when ruled by the republicans are ALL of them, by democrats socialist instead of fascist, but still militarist and nationalist.

    Interesting thing is that in the US, and Europe we need approval by the government to protest, which removes spontanity. And the police and military is always there directing the protests.

    I may be exhaggerating often, but I am not that far from the reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Most people don't question what they are told.
    Social problem that it is imperative that government, media, people, education, politicians and everyone put priority on.

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I do, and it seems you do too. Except I have seen no evidence that you change your position upon learning new things. I change my opinion as well.
    I do, I change my opinions often. I used to support the Iraq war, and used to be a big US fanboy until I was soberly reminded of reality. For example. People say I hate the US, but I dont, I just want them to do what is right and leave others the **** alone. There is also a reason I liked the US in the 90s, while I dislike them now. The US was in the past something to admire, a good place, with good values, ruled by the people through a fair government, this has changed very negatively. Its amazing how much it changed after 911.

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    I am currently learning about the Due Process Clause and how that was used to justify abortion in this country. I currently don't see it clearly - it is a very confusing piece of Constitutional Amendment. I am pro-choice, but I want each state to decide for themselves. A middleground opinion as it were. There is plenty of information on the internet to learn your way past propaganda.
    I am pro choice and pro life at once. Many issues exist that I have no clear stance on or a conflicting stance on, because I overwhelmingly support the reasons of both sides.
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

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