View Poll Results: Did the US adapt the methods, foreign policy and state power of NAZI Germany.

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  • Yes, clearly

    10 7.69%
  • Yes, a lot of it

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  • Yes, somewhat

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  • Hmm, maybe

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  • Yes, its proving a good strategy

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  • Yes, I support it

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  • No, not really

    19 14.62%
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Thread: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Thats not what I am saying. But in the US so many more apspects of politics, governance and the relations between government and people, and the state of the people, makes the similarities strikingly scary.
    Only to people who are idiots and need to wear tin foil hats.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Business cycles have been altered, yes, but I wouldn't necessarily say "controlled" since that is nearly impossible as long as supply and demand is a factor.
    Eliminated does not equal controlled. Bank runs are a thing of the past which is one of, if not the most, important aspects in combating recessions: financial system confidence.

    All one has to do is look at economic cycles over the past 130 years or so.
    In the past, the people would have to "suffer" their way out of a recession. Can you imagine this recession without social security and unemployment insurance?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    In the past, the people would have to "suffer" their way out of a recession. Can you imagine this recession without social security and unemployment insurance?
    It would be worse than the great depression.

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

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    Noticed the bolded names. Notice the political lean. Count how many issues they agree on. It's safe to say the OP is full of ****.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    This is easily one of the most asinine OPs on this board that I've seen

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Noticed the bolded names. Notice the political lean. Count how many issues they agree on. It's safe to say the OP is full of ****.
    Nicely put.

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Eliminated does not equal controlled. Bank runs are a thing of the past which is one of, if not the most, important aspects in combating recessions: financial system confidence.
    Ahh, but, recessions are more prevalent and extend longer now, since Keynsian economics necessarily creates artificial ups and downs, bubbles. Therefore, the only thing predictable is that a recession will happen and the effects will be cyclical and more prolonged. So combating a recession is a false premise since it can be proven that recession is a side effect.



    In the past, the people would have to "suffer" their way out of a recession. Can you imagine this recession without social security and unemployment insurance?
    I would rather "suffer" through a very short recession than prolong one, such as we are seeing now, by what can only be described as Keynesian economics on steroids.
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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    BTW This may have already been adressed, but Facisism is neither socialism nor market capitalism. The economic system was a bit strange. Hitler appeared to be closest to a Keynesian. Mussolini's government controlled wages, prices, and industrial policy (if that's not government control of the economy, I don't know what is). Not sure about Franco's Spain. If one was to put them on a Nolan chart. Facisists would be in the Authoritarian (if not totalitarian) Left. The ideology is about state control and private property was tolerated as long as one was done as they were told. However, comparing them to contemperory Western Conservatism or Liberalism is a smear on both. Totalitarianism is a bizzare system that has little to do with the current political debates hear or elsewhere in today's politics

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Ahh, but, recessions are more prevalent and extend longer now, since Keynsian economics necessarily creates artificial ups and downs, bubbles.
    Wrong! I have already displayed that recessions are less prevalent and frequent. Keynesian economy's protects capitalism from itself. Where are you getting this "artificial ups and downs, bubbles", a hunch?


    Therefore, the only thing predictable is that a recession will happen and the effects will be cyclical and more prolonged. So combating a recession is a false premise since it can be proven that recession is a side effect.
    Again, wrong and for the same reasons above. Your premise does not line up with reality.



    I would rather "suffer" through a very short recession than prolong one, such as we are seeing now, by what can only be described as Keynesian economics on steroids.
    How very caviler, but for the third time; you are not describing any sort of reality. This recession is not created by Keynesian economics, it was a perfect storm of irresponsibility by consumers, producers, and government. Any attempt of ordinal ranking becomes arbitrary as they would not have existed without each other.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    That is absolutely wrong. We are a Representative Republic. It is a type of democracy. As with all types of democracy's it has some elements of socialism, this does not in any way make it a socialist nation.
    Dude, this is a Socialist Nation, and you need to accept that fact.

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