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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No, police are a function of government because laws are meaningless without an enforcement mechanism.

    Duh.

    Health care isn't a function of government because stealing isn't a proper function of government.
    So government should not provide any roads, regulate the airways, we shouldn't have any parks...we should leave all of this up to private industry to regulate right?
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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by gabehwkns View Post
    Aren't you already paying for all the uninsured people who go to emergency rooms without insurance?
    Unfortunately yes. So?
    How does that counter my point?

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda
    Why yes, I have. Here's a little shocking information for you: Medicare is not a universal health system - it's for people over 65 years of age.
    No, really? Well if they can't handle medical coverage for people over 65, how the hell are we supposed to trust them to handle it for everyone?

    Medicare's financial issues are not the result of government mismanagement.
    Actually it is. Those same people who are now retired and pulling Medicare still put into the system for decades before they retired. There should have been a massive surplus in the system from what the Baby Boomers put into it. Instead, the system, like Social Security, has been plundered all along, even though everyone knew the situation we'd one day find ourselves in. Nobody in government looks to the future, they only care about today. Now that we're in the situation we've known was coming for decades... surprise, surprise... WE HAVE NO MONEY!

    And what is causing the increase in the cost of providing health care services?

    OUR PROFIT-DRIVEN HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY.
    Actually, the insurance industry and ambulance-chasing lawyers are doing most of it. Back when I was a kid, if my parents wanted to take me to the doctor, they took $100 (or whatever it cost, I don't remember) and I saw the doctor. There wasn't any insurance and costs were relatively low. It was just as profit-driven then as it is today, there just weren't as many costs built into the system as we have today.

    Please pretend you have a clue what you're talking about.
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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by gabehwkns View Post
    I'm certainly not opposed to making it so.
    Great, let us know when you manage to pass a Constitutional amendment. Until you do, it's not the government's job.
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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I'm sorry, but "it used to be that way and people survived it" isn't a very compelling argument.
    It is if you're arguing that something is 'necessary'.

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Emphasis mine.
    Providing health care could certainly be argued to be 'providing for the general welfare' of the United States.
    This is old and tired.
    The clause you cite gives the power to tax.
    It does NOT grant the power to create programs that provide for the common defense or the general welfare -- the clauses found in the remainder of the section do this.

    If your interpretation of the clause is correct, then there would be no need for any of the other clauses found in the article, save the last.

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States
    Quote Originally Posted by Goober
    It does NOT grant the power to create programs that provide for the common defense or the general welfare
    Your interpretation was rejected by the American people, boo dog. Get over it.

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    If your interpretation of the clause is correct, then there would be no need for any of the other clauses found in the article, save the last.
    The same can be said your interpretation, boo dog.

    Section Eight was made to be intentionally ambiguous. It can be reasonably interpreted to limit the powers granted to Congress or to grant it virtually unlimited power.

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, really? Well if they can't handle medical coverage for people over 65, how the hell are we supposed to trust them to handle it for everyone?
    Who says Medicare can't handle medical coverage for people over 65?

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    Who says Medicare can't handle medical coverage for people over 65?
    Are we going to have to pay for medicare and Obamacare? There's going to be some mighty pissed off working class folks, if that's the case.
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