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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    ALL companies recognize that profits are essential providing the services being sold.
    There's this newfangled thing called "a non-profit organization." You might consider doing a little research...

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No profit equals no growth equals no investors equals no company.
    There's this newfangled thing called "a non-profit organization." You might consider doing a little research...

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    But you must be really really proud of General Motors for losing ONLY a billion and a half last quarter, right?
    A. GM doesn't sell health insurance, nor deny people the option to buy a car if they have a pre-existing condition.

    B.
    The problem for GM was that when the sales slowed down, they had trouble cutting costs because most of their costs were fixed. In other words, a lot of their costs did not go down as their sales went down. In most manufacturing companies, when sales go down, some of the bigger costs go down as well (if you aren't selling as much of your product, then you cut back on manufacturing through layoffs, through reductions in material purchases, and so on). GM has tremendous fixed costs related to their union contract. Closing a plant, for example, did not necessarily mean the workers lost their jobs. Company pensions and legacy health care costs were fixed as well. So when sales went down, many costs stayed fairly constant. And that led to losses. --Why GM Failed
    C. You might consider doing a little research...

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    There's this newfangled thing called "a non-profit organization." You might consider doing a little research...



    There's this newfangled thing called "a non-profit organization." You might consider doing a little research...
    "Non profit" groups actually do profit, they just don't allow OTHERS to profit from their labors.

    Non-profit organization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    you might consider doing a lit.....oh never mind.
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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    I say no this would screw up medicare and make healthcare rationed and cause more people to die needlessly

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Police are a function of government.

    It's not hard to understand freedom, honestly.
    Absolutely...its not difficult at all. Police are a function of government because we decided that they were. Same as with Fire Departments, Roads/public works etc. Healthcare is no different if we decide that it should be a function of the government. There is nothing inherent about any of these examples.
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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    What, you've never heard of Medicare?
    Why yes, I have. Here's a little shocking information for you: Medicare is not a universal health system - it's for people over 65 years of age.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The system that the government will have completely bankrupted in less than a decade?
    Medicare's financial issues are not the result of government mismanagement:

    Financial viability - Aging of the Population
    The fundamental problem is that the ratio of workers paying Medicare taxes to retirees drawing benefits is shrinking, and at the same time, the price of health care services per person is increasing.
    And what is causing the increase in the cost of providing health care services?

    OUR PROFIT-DRIVEN HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY.




    Ye gods. Do you really need this spelled out for you?

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    "Non profit" groups actually do profit, they just don't allow OTHERS to profit from their labors.

    Non-profit organization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    you might consider doing a lit.....oh never mind.
    well, 'profit' in a non-profit organization is a little bit of a different beast than 'profit' in a normal company.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
    Whereas for-profit corporations exist to earn and distribute taxable business earnings to shareholders, the nonprofit corporation exists solely to provide programs and services that are of public benefit. Often these programs and services are not otherwise provided by local, state, or federal entities. While they are able to earn a profit, more accurately called a surplus, such earnings must be retained by the organization for its future provision of programs and services.
    I would say that yes, others do indeed profit from their labors.

    You might want to actually read the articles you link to.
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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am not against it in theory, but I do not think now is the time to do it.
    I don't think it is either. Dennis Kucinich, perhaps one of the biggest, if not the biggest, supporters of single-payer not for profit health care is saying now is not the time. One wonders when it will be though.

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Absolutely. There are certain basic things that a government should exist for. Healthcare should be one of them.
    Totally agree.

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Absolutely not.

    First, insulating the consumer from the cost of the goods/services he receives only raises those costs.

    Second, I have absolutely no responsibility to cover the health care costs of others.
    Aren't you already paying for all the uninsured people who go to emergency rooms without insurance?

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    There's this newfangled thing called "a non-profit organization." You might consider doing a little research...
    You might consider that if non-profits are so wonderful why you're demanding the government nationalize the nation's health care industry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    A. GM doesn't sell health insurance, nor deny people the option to buy a car if they have a pre-existing condition.
    GM doesn't sell much of anything any more. It's run by the government.

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