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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    So if single payer government mandated health care resembles the general welfare clause, you would be in support?
    I accept your concession of the point.

    Moving on:
    What "general welfare" clause?

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I accept your concession of the point.

    Moving on:
    What "general welfare" clause?
    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxing_and_Spending_Clause]Taxing and Spending Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    You've made a point? Silly me. I assumed you were disengaging in the discussion....
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    You've made a point? Silly me. I assumed you were disengaging in the discussion....
    That's OK -- you think that. It was silly of me to think you might be actually trying to have an honest conversation. MY bad, and I apoligize.

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    That's OK -- you think that. It was silly of me to think you might be actually trying to have an honest conversation. MY bad, and I apoligize.
    Care to provide a source of my dishonesty? Secondly, any type of response in regards to your general welfare comment?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Care to provide a source of my dishonesty?
    Sorry -- not feeding the trolls.

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Sorry -- not feeding the trolls.
    Making empty claims and then running away when someone calls you on them is unbecoming. Next time you open your mouth, beware of what comes out; that way it will prevent your foot from entering it....

    The inconsistencies of the so called "conservatives" are the reasons why the RNC and "conservative" party are in decline. Government has absolutely no business intervening in peoples lives unless of course such actions support ideology. Then, government intervention is a conservatives best friend.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Making empty claims and then running away when someone calls you on them is unbecoming...
    It's also an outright lie on your part, as I have done no such thing.

    You AGREE the function that you characterize as "Military Keynesianism" is directly specified in the Constitution under the clauses I mentioned. Not sure what else needs to be said, and why you think you still have a relevant point.

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    It's also an outright lie on your part, as I have done no such thing.

    You AGREE the function that you characterize as "Military Keynesianism" is directly specified in the Constitution under the clauses I mentioned. Not sure what else needs to be said, and why you think you still have a relevant point.
    Military Keynesianism in regards to US military policy developed in the early 80's with the help of a fruitful dose of military spending under Reagan (which ended under Clinton). However, we have began to see a re-emergence in such a policy most recently.

    And yet; the conservative political watchdogs took the bait. Which is why you argue against (with little success) health care reform.

    You made a comment in regards to the General Welfare Clause. If we are to bastardize it in the fashion you bastardize national defense, why are you against a single payer system again?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Military Keynesianism in regards to US military policy developed in the early 80's...

    And yet; the conservative political watchdogs took the bait. Which is why you argue against (with little success) health care reform.

    You made a comment in regards to the General Welfare Clause. If we are to bastardize it in the fashion you bastardize national defense, why are you against a single payer system again?
    Ah! I see your problem! You don't understand the argument.
    Now, genuinely or willfully I cannot say, but I have my suspicions...

    Apples and oranges.

    As you have agreed, "Military Keynesianism" has its basis in powers directly specified by the Constitution, whereas a federal-government-as-the-single-payer system does not.

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    Re: Do you support single-payer health care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Ah! I see your problem! You don't understand the argument.
    Now, genuinely or willfully I cannot say, but I have my suspicions...

    Apples and oranges.

    As you have agreed, "Military Keynesianism" has its basis in powers directly specified by the Constitution, whereas a federal-government-as-the-single-payer system does not.
    So....

    No comment on the general welfare clause? Shocking
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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