For example, my last employer subsidized insurance plan cost me a little over $50/month. I think it was $57. That was single no children no wife, just me. If I assumed the insurance cost $57 (which effectively was my cost, since it was the only cost I could control) I would say it was not very expensive at all.
The same insurance through cobra was over $500. So the employer was actually paying almost 90% of my insurance when I paid the small amount. The real cost of my insurance was over $500/month.
My part is 80 dollars per month, but I don't take out the "premium" plan. I rarely go to a doctor, I don't take any medications (prescription or non-prescription), and I have to pay a higher deductible than the more expensive plan requires . This is for just myself. It's a pretty basic PPO plan, and I don't know what the company pays in total for it, but when I've checked around for private insurance plans with similar coverage, I would be paying 2-3 times that amount.
If there are such statutes I am not aware of them. If there are such statutes, they would clearly violate the 10th amendment as there is absolutely NO federal power to mandate such a thing to the states.2) Other than NCLB, aren't there federal statutes governing that providing education is mandatory for states, even though there is limited federal financing - majority local financing? There is a Dept of Education. What does it do?
Most Federal influence over education comes from the strings ttached to federal funding - if you want our $ you will do X.
3) You are using the term 'necessity'. Is this a legal term that enforces that fact that a 12th grade education be provided to everyone. If not, what is the legal reason we have this?
The legal reason we have compulsorary education is because the states provide it.
Society functioned quite well w/ nothing other than basic pay-as-you go health care. Thus, health care, as we see discussed here, is NOT a necessity for a functioning society.4) To use your terms, I would argue that health care is not a luxury, not a right, but a necessity for a functioning society.
Its not my responsibility to provide health care to anyone that I do not choose to provide for. If you want to make it YOUR responsibility to do so, then feel free, but do not presume to make that choice for everyone.It is an absolute embarrassment that we don't provide coverage to everyone. We don't lead the world in this regard and we should.
You cannot, as you cannot -create- a condition where society cannot function w/o it.I want to make it a necessity along the lines of a compulsory education.
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The healthcare nazis would (you used to word compulsory, not me, live with the implications of what you demand):
Close McDonald's, Burger King, Carl's Junior, Taco Bell, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Weinersnitchel, etc.
Implement concentration camps for the fat boys.
Replace cars with bicycles.
Eliminate white bread.
etc etc etc.
No, a free society doesn't suffer compulsory anything. It ceases to be free when the nazis come to town.