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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    And so how does that necessarily preclude there being life there?

    And... the idea that The Bible is an exhaustive, all-inclusive list of every action God ever took is, well, beyond ridicule. Not even the most whacked of the most whacked fundamentalists believe this.
    I have met many people that take the Bible as all-inclusive the as the literal word of god.

    I think that there is life out there... I guess I have no idea what your point is, since you keep on suggesting that I am implying that there is no life out there, when what I am saying is quite different.
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I have met many people that take the Bible as all-inclusive the as the literal word of god.

    I think that there is life out there... I guess I have no idea what your point is, since you keep on suggesting that I am implying that there is no life out there, when what I am saying is quite different.
    Are you just trying to be argumentative. I call bull**** on you knowing many people that think the Bible is all there is. If you know people, I want to know their names...I'll contact them. Does anyone really believe an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent God can be written down in that little Bible?
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Are you just trying to be argumentative. I call bull**** on you knowing many people that think the Bible is all there is. If you know people, I want to know their names...I'll contact them. Does anyone really believe an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent God can be written down in that little Bible?
    If the Bible doesn't fully explain God, what does? The bible is the most strongest authority there is about God.
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    If the Bible doesn't fully explain God, what does? The bible is the most strongest authority there is about God.
    Yes it is, but that does not imply that everything about God is in it.
    The Bible is the book about the salvation of man by God.
    It's not a book all about God.
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yes it is, but that does not imply that everything about God is in it.
    The Bible is the book about the salvation of man by God.
    It's not a book all about God.
    So you're saying there's a lot of stuff we don't know about God.
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Life on other planets would certainly disprove some common Christian beliefs, but not the Bible per se.
    I don't think life on other planets is mentioned in the Bible in any way, but some of the OT events and race of Elohim could be explained by an alien presence.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    So are these prophecies the one's from the OT? The one's that most Jews regard as NOT being fulfilled by Jesus?

    Christians have revised or reinterpreted many prophecies of the OT from what was traditionally believed by Judaism in order to apply them to Jesus.


    "Seventy weeks are determined For your people and for your holy city, To finish the transgression, To make an end of sins, To make reconciliation for iniquity, To bring in everlasting righteousness, To seal up vision and prophecy, And to anoint the Most Holy. "Know therefore and understand, That from the going forth of the command To restore and build Jerusalem Until Messiah the Prince, There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; The street shall be built again, and the wall, Even in troublesome times. "And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined.


    Daniel 9:24-26


    Daniel is told that there would be seven weeks, and sixty-two weeks (7x7+62x7=483 years) until 'the Anointed One, the prince' would come.

    Do you know of a different Messiah from that time?

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    This peculiar maths needs some explanation, Ted.

    Which flood was the end to what war in connection with Jesus, and after which 62 weeks was he "cut off"?

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by roderic View Post
    This peculiar maths needs some explanation, Ted.

    Which flood was the end to what war in connection with Jesus, and after which 62 weeks was he "cut off"?

    Days are actually Hebrew (360 day) years.


    "Seventy weeks are determined For your people and for your holy city, To finish the transgression, To make an end of sins, To make reconciliation for iniquity, To bring in everlasting righteousness, To seal up vision and prophecy, And to anoint the Most Holy. "Know therefore and understand, That from the going forth of the command To restore and build Jerusalem Until Messiah the Prince, There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; The street shall be built again, and the wall, Even in troublesome times. "And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined.

    Daniel 9:24-26


    Daniel is told that there would be seven weeks, and sixty-two weeks (7x7+62x7=483 years) until 'the Anointed One, the prince' would come.


    Most historians agree on the date of 444 B.C. as the time of the issuing of the decree of Artaxerxes to Nehemiah. Since the length of time [seven "sevens" (sheva) plus sixty-two "sevens"] was given to a Jew (Daniel), we know the years/prophetic days are 360 literal days in length.
    483 Hebrew years is literally 173,880 days. This is the same as 476 Solar/Julian years. This takes us to the time of Christ's Crucifixion.



    Titus destroyed the "city and sanctuary" in 70 AD, but no specific time is prescribed for this event in this passage since the sixty-nine weeks are complete when Messiah is "cut off".

    FYI: A "flood" in Bible prophesy often refers to a flood of people, as in a sea of people.

    I'm reluctant to comment on which war since many Bible prophesies have multiple fulfillments and are also fulfilled in type. Hitler, for example, is certainly a type of anti-Christ to the extent that he had a number associated with his name (not 666, but rather 555) and murdered millions while making himself a god, but he was not the actual anti-Christ. I could speculate that the war that was to end prior to the end of "desolations" was WWII since only then did the Jews return to reestablish Israel, but I really don't have the background to say for sure one way or another.

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