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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    The bible is a story, just like climate change, tell a story long enough, and it becomes reality!

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva;1058408014
    Life on other planets disproves the Bible, not God. That is all I care about.
    This is only true if The Bible is held to list every action ever taken by God.
    Do you believe this to be true, and if so, why?

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    This is only true if The Bible is held to list every action ever taken by God.
    Do you believe this to be true, and if so, why?
    Bodi - "The Bible is Gods word. The Bible outlines the origins of the universe. The Bible does not talk about life on other planets, but it does tell us what the heavens are for."

    First God made heaven & earth

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    He makes the heaven and earth, and describes in detail the design of earth and humans and plants, but nothing of heaven.

    And God made the firmament and separated the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament. And it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day. 9 And God said, "Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear." And it was so. 10 God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good.

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    God is outlining that all under the heavens is earth with life and that the heavens is God's domain. God is absolute. God speaks to us throug the Bible. The Bible is therefore absolute. The Bible must describe Gods actions accurately or it is wrong.

    God is speaking about the origins of the universe above. God does not talk about the age of the universe either. It took God 7 days to create the heaven and earth, the universe. We know that the universe is 15 billion years old during this Big Bang, and possiby older... God is wrong about that too, and that also disproves the Bible.

    We don't get to interpret the Word of God. It says what it says, and if it doesn't say it, then it didn't happen. Not "not saying" something doesnt mean that it possibly exists in this situation, since we are talking about the absolute nature of God's Word... the Bible.
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    We don't get to interpret the Word of God. It says what it says, and if it doesn't say it, then it didn't happen.
    Yes... but...again...this is only true if The Bible is held to list every action ever taken by God.
    Do you believe this to be true, and if so, why?

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Yes... but...again...this is only true if The Bible is held to list every action ever taken by God.
    Do you believe this to be true, and if so, why?
    Yes and for the reasons that I listed... God is speaking about the origins of the universe and lists extensively about Earth, but nothing of the heavens other than they are God's domain.

    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth

    Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so


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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    No...
    The statement is:


    Absence of proof is not proof of absence.


    That is:


    That something has not been proven to exist in no way necessitates that it does not exist.


    The statement is completely, unassailably sound.
    The second statement is fine. The first is not. The second statement is not a correct rephrase of the first. A correct rephrase would be:

    That something has not been proven to exist in no way PROVES that it does not exist.


    A further example:
    Goobieman: I have a rock in my hand.
    Scourge99: (looks in Goobieman's hand and sees no rock) No you don't. I see no rock.
    Goobieman: absence of proof is not proof of absence.
    Scourge99: (feels for a rock in goobieman's hand) there is obviously no rock in your hand that I can see or touch therefore there is no rock.
    Goobieman: absence of proof is not proof of absence.
    Scourge99: absence of proof IS proof of absence in this case!
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Umm...
    I asked a question. YOU, in your response made the claim, not me.
    When YOU asnwer the question in the affirmative, it is then up to you to support it.
    I didn't think I needed to explain myself again...I rather hoped that you remembered my previous post about that sort of question.

    If you asked, "is there a god?" There's only one way to go about answering that question. The claim that must be made for logical analysis to be possible is "God exists." If you submit the claim that "God does not exist" you are not able to provide support or evidence because you cannot possibly gather evidence of nothing. Therefore, asking an atheist to provide proof that God does not exist is a silly question.

    Again, the claim that "God does not exist" can only follow the claim that "God does exists." The burden of proof can only be possible on the side of the theist. The former claim cannot exist by itself.



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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackboot View Post
    The bible is a story, just like climate change, tell a story long enough, and it becomes reality!
    At worst, it's Historical Fiction.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Yes and for the reasons that I listed... God is speaking about the origins of the universe and lists extensively about Earth, but nothing of the heavens other than they are God's domain.
    And so how does that necessarily preclude there being life there?

    And... the idea that The Bible is an exhaustive, all-inclusive list of every action God ever took is, well, beyond ridicule. Not even the most whacked of the most whacked fundamentalists believe this.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    The second statement is fine. The first is not. The second statement is not a correct rephrase of the first. A correct rephrase would be:

    That something has not been proven to exist in no way PROVES that it does not exist.


    So, now that you agree with me.... what?

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