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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Let me put it this way energy surronds us everyday.

    Solid matter today must be made either by man or nature.
    They exist side by side,;

    For anything to explode there must be cause and effect.

    Sorry but energy conforming into a mass and then egniting into a big explosion.WELL?
    I don't understand your point....You're saying that something needed to cause the Big Bang to explode. That has nothing to do with your initial question. Your question was about how the Big Bang is possible.
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    via logic. Which is the very thing in question.
    If a premise does not define it's parameters, it can't be considered to be a true premise.


    Please prove/validate why logic is true. If you use logic to do so then isn't that assuming that which you are trying to prove; a fallacy within logic.
    It's the rules of logic that dictate it's use. If what I said isn't true, then logic doesn't exist as a field of study.


    How do you absolutely know this? Induction and deduction? Once again, trace the roots of these and explain why you are absolutely sure of their truth/validity.
    If it isn't true, then logic doesn't exist as a field of study.

    unless we are omniscient then we have an incomplete knowledge of the world. Thus our conclusions may be false due to a false inductions and deductions.
    If we don't have knowledge of something, then we cannot make a statement about it and consider it true. If we make a statement about all of reality, we are making a statement about something we don't have knowledge of, and therefore we cannot consider it true.


    but logic is based on our understanding and perception otherwise how else would we know it? If we aren't omniscient then how can we claim our conclusions are absolutely correct in regards to reality. (Yes they may be correct in regards to logic but as explained logical truth does not necessitate truth in reality)
    Our conclusions are correct if and only if they are actually correct. We can say that we think a conclusion is correct but if it is not actually correct, we are wrong.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I never said that there was a limit to unlimited power. I said that nobody can do that which is impossible, not even a being that has unlimited power , because if something can be done, there is no such thing as that which is impossible.
    Is there anything that is impossible to do?

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Is there anything that is impossible to do?
    Get through the DMV in less than an hour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    But you do not have limitless power so you must use adjectives properly and not as nouns to make an argument.



    I'm not going to structure my argument like that because to do so I would have to be ignorant of how words are used. "The impossible" is not a thing. It is not an action.

    My argument is "If a being exists that has unlimited power to do anything, there is nothing that is impossible"

    It's that simple.

    Anything is possible = nothing is impossible. These statements have identical meanings.
    I think this best statement is "Anything is possible" and leave it like that.
    After all mankind throughout history has been proven wrong more than once when they said a certain thing was "impossible".
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    It's nonsense because the word impossible is not a noun.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Anything is possible = nothing is impossible. These statements have identical meanings.

    I think I getcha now, so let's try this again:

    If God can do anything, nothing is impossible. If nothing is impossible, then is there such a thing as the illogical?
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Get through the DMV in less than an hour?
    I'm guessing it would be pretty easy for someone with unlimited power to do so.

    Althought, "easy" denotes a degree of taxation of one's ability. If you have unlimted ability, then nothing is difficult; if nothing is difficult, then nothing is easy.

    So, for those with unlimited power, nothing is easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    I don't understand your point....You're saying that something needed to cause the Big Bang to explode. That has nothing to do with your initial question. Your question was about how the Big Bang is possible.
    My point is quite simple all things are possible including the Big Bang Theory or the existance of God.

    It only depends on one's beleifs nothing more.

    As far as the thought of impossibilities?

    As I have said before when mankind knows for sure that everything that is possible has been done and only impossible things remain.

    Then we might as well put evolution on hold there would be nothing left for us to evolve to.this is as good as it gets.

    I don't know about you but I can't accept that.
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I'm guessing it would be pretty easy for someone with unlimited power to do so.

    Althought, "easy" denotes a degree of taxation of one's ability. If you have unlimted ability, then nothing is difficult; if nothing is difficult, then nothing is easy.

    So, for those with unlimited power, nothing is easy.
    God would still get out of the DMV in 65 minutes.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    God would still get out of the DMV in 65 minutes.
    God has a car. A Plymouth.

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