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Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

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Oh yes it is, fake from the get go.
 
Just a little commentary. What I find interesting about this thread is that neither Goobieman nor Scarecrow are answering the other's questions; both are becoming frustrated with this refusal to do so. Now you both know what it is like for the rest of us when we debate each of you.

Back to our regularly scheduled programing.

What I find interesting is that you're not mentioning the fact that Goobieman himself said I'm not required to answer questions in a form he understands.

I am answering the question.

He's not understanding the answer, and he refuses to accept that the rule he promoted is standing in his way. And, to add to the hilarity, he's getting angry that I'm using his rule on him.

I am not frustrated, I am amused.

Would you like to know why trout in mountain streams disproves Noah?
 
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Hmm. What if the extraterrestrial intelligences in question have Bibles of their own? I don't mean their own holy books, but actual Judeochristian Bibles, that tell them that God created their world in six days and created them in his own image.

It's the sort of thing that would make you wonder what, precisely, he meant by it.
 
Hmm. What if the extraterrestrial intelligences in question have Bibles of their own? I don't mean their own holy books, but actual Judeochristian Bibles, that tell them that God created their world in six days and created them in his own image.

It's the sort of thing that would make you wonder what, precisely, he meant by it.

To be honest, I'd laugh my ass off if that happened. Even harder if their "day" was like a week and a half of our days.
 
Inspired by this story:

The Associated Press: Vatican looks to heavens for signs of alien life

If life -is- found on other planets, does this disprove the Bible's story of Creation?

Please be sure to explain your response

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Options:
Yes, because...
No, because...
Other

We don't even have to leave the earth to prove that the bible is wrong, the bible is wrong because the earth isn't flat, and the bible is wrong because we are not within a geocentric universe.

No repent sinner and accept the one true god:

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May his noodely appendage be upon you.
 
We don't even have to leave the earth to prove that the bible is wrong, the bible is wrong because the earth isn't flat, and the bible is wrong because we are not within a geocentric universe.

No repent sinner and accept the one true god:

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May his noodely appendage be upon you.

What is this ****??

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Does the bible really discuss geo-centricity and flat earth?
 
What is this ****??

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You're late I've already made multiple Raptor Jesus comments on these forums.

there was a fire and brimstone preacher on campus a month or so ago, and Raptor Jesus made an appearance. On the flip side of Raptor Jesus' banner it read "The Raptore is Coming, Hide Your Gays"
 
I usually don't quibble too much over details. Also the main point of Christianity like 99.9% of religion is to not be a d*ck,

Sorry um no, first Jesus in the new testament in Matthew 5: 17-19 clearly states that the old testament law must be fullfilled: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or tittle shall nowise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven."

That would include lovely little laws like stoning gays for being gay and stoning women for sex outside of marriage.

Moreover, Jesus in Matthew 10:34-39 that he came to bring war not peace: "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it."and again in Luke 12:49–53: "I have come to cast fire upon the earth; and how I wish it were already kindled! 50 But I have a baptism* to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is accomplished! 51 Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division; 52 for from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three. 53 They will be divided, father* against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law."

Jesus was a dick.
 
You're late I've already made multiple Raptor Jesus comments on these forums.

there was a fire and brimstone preacher on campus a month or so ago, and Raptor Jesus made an appearance. On the flip side of Raptor Jesus' banner it read "The Raptore is Coming, Hide Your Gays"

I know, I was merely countering that ridiculous Spa-gay-ti monster theory.

but srsly, the bible talks about geo-centricity and flat earth???
 
What is this ****??

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HEATHEN!!!

Does the bible really discuss geo-centricity and flat earth?

Many times:

The sun rises, and the sun goes down, and hastens to the place where it rises. -- Ecclesiastes 1:5

And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.
-- Joshua 10:13

He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved. -- Psalm 104:5

When the earth totters, and all its inhabitants, it is I who keep steady its pillars. -- Psalm 75:3

There's many more instances.
 
Sorry um no, first Jesus in the new testament in Matthew 5: 17-19 clearly states that the old testament law must be fullfilled... That would include lovely little laws like stoning gays for being gay and stoning women for sex outside of marriage... Moreover, Jesus in Matthew 10:34-39 that he came to bring war not peace:... Jesus was a dick.

1. Jesus said he came to fulfill the law, not that "old testament law must be fulfilled." Subtle difference. It could be easily argued that "fulfillment" of the law merely meant summarizing it as he did: 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments." That's not being a dick.

2. The rest of the gospel you quoted can easily be understood to mean that Christ's coming and teachings would divide people--as it so plainly has, even in this thread. Also not dick-ish.

3. There's an awful lot of scripture attributed to Jesus that is pacifist and centered on loving others. In general, an un-dick teaching.

Not that "the" Jesus was likely to have actually said most of the stuff in the Gospels anyway. Nevertheless, as someone who's read all of it many times, I just in general have to disagree that they are all the teachings of a dick.

Also, I guess we can give up on the original topic, right? :)
 
I answered NO. Mostly because life here began out there. "God" meant for mankind to find Earth, it was all part of his plan. Once he got us here he set about setting down his laws for us.

All of this has happened before, all of this will happen again.


Great article about Hera or Mitochondrial Eve.
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Sorry, I just could not frakin help myself.:lol:
 
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What if we were first?

So God creates other beings and in the last 2,000 years of supposed apparitions to human beings he simply doesn't tell us 'Oh guess what boys, you're not alone in the universe I also made 'these guys'? I mean if we're God's creation, it would seem to me such a God would mention we're not really alone as far 'creations' go. It's kind of like your father telling you that you're not only child when you're like 50. Like if he'd told you at 30 it would have made any real difference. Just seems so redundant to have 'other' creations in the first place.
 
Inspired by this story:

The Associated Press: Vatican looks to heavens for signs of alien life

If life -is- found on other planets, does this disprove the Bible's story of Creation?

Please be sure to explain your response

<poll pending>

Options:
Yes, because...
No, because...
Other

Even though it is almost impossible that the Universe isn't literally full of an almost infinite number of lifeforms.....

We still cannot rule out the possibility of there being a God in some form because it all had to start somehow.
 
Even though it is almost impossible that the Universe isn't literally full of an almost infinite number of lifeforms.....

We still cannot rule out the possibility of there being a God in some form because it all had to start somehow.

I see little to no evidence of there being a God, Gods or Goddesses.
 
I see little to no evidence of there being a God, Gods or Goddesses.

There is currently far more evidence of there being a God than of there not being one.

Especially when every culture all over the planet simultaneously believed in a God in some form.
 
How can something that is not proven, established or have any geological/cosmoslogical/historical value be disproven?

The Bible says Jews exist.

According to you, that claim of the bible's is not proven.

If we accept that Jews, according to you, do not exist, then a UFO changes nothing.

If we assume that Jews do exist, I fail to see how a UFO on the white-house lawn would suddenly delete Israel from history.


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The bible teaches that fraud is harmful. You don't believe fraud is harmful as you said the bible is unproven.

Even if we accepted your premise that fraud is benign or helpful, I fail to see how a UFO would change the nature of fraud in any way.
 
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There is currently far more evidence of there being a God than of there not being one.

Especially when every culture all over the planet simultaneously believed in a God in some form.

Are you seriously arguing the fallacy of the bandwagon as evidence for God?

People will credit all sorts of stuff to explain things they can't. That doesn't mean God exists, just that people credit all sorts of stuff to explain things they can't.

There is no evidence for God(s). Just as there is no solid evidence against God (as a concept). There is plenty of evidence against certain interpretations of Gods though.
 
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