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Thread: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Aren't you assuming that logic is correct? That if logic dictates something is false then it absolutely cannot be?

    If logic is somehow flawed or incorrect then proving something logically false does not mean it necessarilly is.
    I agree with you, it is an assumption. It's a matter of preference to be logical or illogical. Which are you going to choose?
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    That God doesn't have to be logical.
    Exactly correct.

    How does that necesitate that "This thread has ended for you since the beginning"?

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    I agree with you, it is an assumption. It's a matter of preference to be logical or illogical. Which are you going to choose?
    Don't assume that merely because I posit an idea that such are my personal beliefs or that my personal beliefs are relevant to such a matter.
    If you believe in the Supernatural then you can become a millionaire!

    Questioning or criticizing another's core beliefs is inadvertently perceived as offensive and rude.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Exactly correct.

    How does that necesitate that "This thread has ended for you since the beginning"?
    because you don't need proof or evidence to persuade someone with your position. It's meaningless to someone like you. It's an exercise in futility. Therefore, it ended even before it began.

    You have no use for logic. Why bother with making this thread?
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Don't assume that merely because I posit an idea that such are my personal beliefs or that my personal beliefs are relevant to such a matter.
    Actually, you agree with me since I said it earlier in the thread. You're just echoing me.
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    because you don't need proof or evidence to persuade someone with your position. It's meaningless to someone like you. It's an exercise in futility. Therefore, it ended even before it began.
    So, MY answer to MY poll question is no.
    That means the thread is over, because...?

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Does a circular argument in this thread disprove its asininity?

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Look at Tucker's argument. The whole premise assumes that the illogical cannot be done. That's begging the question. Again, hence why I've stated there is no actual argument against why God cannot be illogical other then our desires to understand.
    Actually the argument sets up the idea that if something can be done, it must be logically possible.

    The rules of logic are bound by what exists in reality. If something can be done in reality, it must, by the very definition of "logically possible", be logically possible.

    You've got he cause and effect backwards. You think that the being is bound by what is logically possible, when in reality what is logically possible would be defined by what the being can do.

    It would not be defined by what, if anything, it cannot do.

    The argument that God can do things that are logically impossible only shows a lack of understanding of logic on the person who makes the comment and nothing more.

    What is logically impossible is only "that which cannot be done". If a being can do something, that specific something cannot be "that which cannot be done".

    My premise assumes nothing.


    Further more, when you state: "premise assumes that the illogical cannot be done" you are making a few errors.

    1. My premise didn't presume such a things as "the illogical cannot be done" because there is no such thing as the "illogical". There are things which are or are not logically possible to be done.

    2. You are making an error about what my presumptions are. I am that things that are not logically possible cannot be done. That is because logic is defined by reality. The only way something cannot be logically possible is if it cannot be done in reality. If an omnipotent being can do it, it is then, by definition, logically possible.


    Let me write it out:

    Premise 1: What is logically possible is defined by what is possible within reality
    Premise 2: An omnipotent being would define what is possible within reality
    Conclusion: Therefore, an omnipotent being would define what is logically possible.


    It's very simple. Saying that this assumes that only that which can logically be done can be done is just getting things backwards.

    Look at the premises. They only define the terms. That is what they are defined as. Where is the logical flaw?

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    So, MY answer to MY poll question is no.
    That means the thread is over, because...?
    Please read again, "This thread has ended for you." Did you catch that? Or do you need me to explain?
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Premise 1: What is logically possible is defined by what is possible within reality
    Fail. Anything is possible, logical or not, real or not.

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