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Thread: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by paris View Post
    So you clearly don't understand the concept of universality either.
    Why I am not surprised
    Please -- explain to us all how you are right and we are wrong.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    No, God can not brake His own rules.
    Being omnipotent means that you can both break and not break the rules at the same time.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    The thing to realize here is that if we're going to discuss God in a logical manner, and then posit that God can be illogical, it becomes an exercise in futility.

    God, therefore, must be a logical being if we are to seriously discuss about God.
    Not sure how there is a necessary relationship here.
    Being able to break the rules of logic is an inherent part of omnipotence.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    It makes 4

    Whats your ****ing point?
    Context, please.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Who said God could do just anything anyone thought up? There's a list of things God can not do. Since God can not do these things and is still omnipotent, we therefore know that "omnipotent" only includes the power to do what can logically be don.

    Since "omnipotent" only regards what can logically be don, and God can do everything which is logically possible, God is therefore omnipotent.
    Power limited to only the logically possible is limted.
    Omnipotence is having power not limited.

    And really...
    Having the power to defy logic seems impossible because of the limits of the human mind. It is no different than the classic 'flatlander' scenario where the inhabitants of flatland cannot conceive of what we call 'up'.

    To believe that God is limited to the limits we place on the universe due to our understanding of same is rather narcisisitic.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You're welcome!

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Being omnipotent means that you can both break and not break the rules at the same time.
    Mind. Blown.


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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Power limited to only the logically possible is limted.
    Omnipotence is having power not limited.

    And really...
    Having the power to defy logic seems impossible because of the limits of the human mind. It is no different than the classic 'flatlander' scenario where the inhabitants of flatland cannot conceive of what we call 'up'.

    To believe that God is limited to the limits we place on the universe due to our understanding of same is rather narcisisitic.
    Omnipotence means everything is logically possible. Even making a rock so massive that the omnipotent being could not lift it.

    It's actually pretty easy. Create the Rock, fail to lift it once, then succeed to lift it the next time.

    /dilemma

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Omnipotence means everything is logically possible. Even making a rock so massive that the omnipotent being could not lift it.

    It's actually pretty easy. Create the Rock, fail to lift it once, then succeed to lift it the next time.

    /dilemma


    Mind. Blown. Again.


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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Not sure how there is a necessary relationship here.
    Being able to break the rules of logic is an inherent part of omnipotence.
    Well if you're going to describe omnipotence in that manner, why go through the charades and pretenses of trying to be logical. Why go through the trouble of establishing logical evidences and such?

    If God doesn't follow the rules of logic, why use logic to explain it?
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    Let the public school provide the basics, you as the parent can do the fine tuning.

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