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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Who says that every word is 100% literal.
    Fundamentalists.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Fundamentalists.
    And fundamentalists shouldn't be taken seriously. In the early Christian church it was considered heretical to interpret the Bible literally.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No, the Bible disproves the Bible. The Bible isn't consistent with scientific fact.

    Fact: The world-drowing flood described for Noah....didn't happen.

    Period.

    That's it.

    No flood.

    The myth is....a myth, not true.

    End of argument.
    i would say there's something to that story. too many civilizations have a similar story to discount that event entirely.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I find this highly doubtful. While atheism is indeed on the rise in society currently... so is active participation in religion. We're not becoming less religious overall, merely more polarized.
    Maybe, but my observation is that religious ideology seems to be entering other realms outside of an obscure unknown "power", and is becoming more apparent in taking up "causes", in which the power source is actually a man or group of men who have deemed what is right and what is wrong based on what they (the ones who think up these ideas) intend to gain in order to suit their own causes. Perhaps it has always been this way, but since I don't remember living thousands of years ago, I don't know if it's always been the case.

    As far as the usual organized religions and their levels of practice in the US currently (using church attendance numbers), it seems that this has fallen over the past 50 years.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    If it's not literal, it can't be taken on faith, and the whole structure of Christianity is completely dependent on the veracity of the claim that Mary wasn't getting laid.
    One of the explanations I've read regarding the virgin birth part of the story is that in the particular sect Mary was reportedly a member of, a virgin was a woman who had not yet given birth, and not a woman who had not had sex.

    It seems to me that many in the Christian community have moved away from practicing religion based on the "miracle" events, and have moved toward following some of the philosophy.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    And fundamentalists shouldn't be taken seriously. In the early Christian church it was considered heretical to interpret the Bible literally.
    These days, it's considered heretical by the fundamentalists, who presently dominate the seminaries of many mainstream American religions, to be non-fundamentalist. Those who control the seminaries also control the religious congregations, because that is the perspective that will be advanced from the pulpit to the congregation. So, yes, I take the fundamentalists seriously, because they are trying, aggressively, to advance their worldview. And, I remember their hostile takeover of the Southern Baptist seminaries and colleges back in the 80s.
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    If discovering that the earth was really round didn't disprove the Bible, nor did the discovery of a vacuum disprove the Bible then I don't think that the possibility of some aliens existing is going to disprove it, either.

    I don't believe in it at all, never really did - yet I don't see those who do believe in it to suddenly not believe in it because of this current issue.
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    These days, it's considered heretical by the fundamentalists, who presently dominate the seminaries of many mainstream American religions, to be non-fundamentalist. Those who control the seminaries also control the religious congregations, because that is the perspective that will be advanced from the pulpit to the congregation. So, yes, I take the fundamentalists seriously, because they are trying, aggressively, to advance their worldview. And, I remember their hostile takeover of the Southern Baptist seminaries and colleges back in the 80s.
    Who are you kidding? Fundamentalists do not dominate. Are you going to call the Catholic church fundamentalist now?

    Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Who are you kidding? Fundamentalists do not dominate. Are you going to call the Catholic church fundamentalist now?
    Fundamentalist do INDEED dominate in the U.S., and while populations in the mainstream faiths (Presbyterian, Anglican, Methodist) are dwindling, they are growing in the evangelical segment (Baptist, Southern Baptist, Presbyterian USA, etc.) of Christianity.

    Today, with 16.6 million adherents (5.3% of the total population), Southern Baptist is the largest of more than 200[15] distinctly named Protestant denominations.[16] Of the total population, Evangelicals comprise 26.3%, and Mainline Protestants 16%.[17] The strength of various sects varies greatly in different regions of the country, with rural parts of the South (except Louisiana and the Hispanic community, which both consist mainly of Catholics), having many evangelicals but very few Catholics, while urbanized areas of the north Atlantic states and Great Lakes, as well as many industrial and mining towns, are heavily Catholic, though still quite mixed. As of 1990, nearly 72% of the population of Utah was Mormon, as well as 26% of neighboring Idaho.[18] Lutheranism is most prominent in the Upper Midwest, with North Dakota having the highest percentage, 35% according to a 2001 survey.[19
    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States]Religion in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Evangelists are not necessarily fundamentalists.

    Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24
    "True law is right reason in agreement with nature . . . Whoever is disobedient is fleeing from himself and denying his human nature [and] will suffer the worst penalties . . ." - Cicero

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