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I am not narrowly arguing against literalism.Perhaps you're only exposed to literalism?
My wife's mother is a pastor. I have plenty of discussions with her and the other leaders of their church. I attend church activities regularly as part of the family. Not to mention that I attended church weekly during my teens. I also belong to several other boards where a diverse set of Christian beliefs are debated. I am also an avid reader of philsophical and theological literature. I even attend university lectures and debates, most recently the lecture by apologists Ravi Zacharias, John Lennox and michael ramsden on "is faith delusional?"but if you don't actually attend church activities yourself it makes sense you wouldn't know that real people attend. If all you have are headlines and the extreme examples brought to this forum, then suddenly your posting history makes sense.
I am continually learning and don't claim to have perfect or infallible knowledge. But I probably have more knwoledge and a deeper understanding of the Christian religion than you do.
So when you care to address my post rather than making personal attacks on me then please
The story of Jesus and santa both contain mythical elements. Agree or disagree?
Which parts of the story are mythical? Which are real? How do we know? Can we know?
Or we can abandon this tangent until another time.
If you believe in the Supernatural then you can become a millionaire!
Questioning or criticizing another's core beliefs is inadvertently perceived as offensive and rude.
"Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or tittle shall nowise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven."
B.S., he clearly states that no one can break even the least of the old laws.It could be easily argued that "fulfillment" of the law merely meant summarizing it as he did: 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
Sorry but he clearly says don't break one tittle of the least of the old laws.This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments." That's not being a dick.
Well in plain English he said that he comes not to bring peace but to bring war.2. The rest of the gospel you quoted can easily be understood to mean that Christ's coming and teachings would divide people--as it so plainly has, even in this thread. Also not dick-ish.
So you admit that the bible is completely contradictory. The damn thing can't even agree with itself. It's not even good fiction.3. There's an awful lot of scripture attributed to Jesus that is pacifist and centered on loving others. In general, an un-dick teaching.
The central point of "believe in me or burn in a lake of hell fire for all eternity," sounds like a pretty dickish move to me.Not that "the" Jesus was likely to have actually said most of the stuff in the Gospels anyway. Nevertheless, as someone who's read all of it many times, I just in general have to disagree that they are all the teachings of a dick.
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Pretty simple stuff really.