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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'm with you.

    I understand the concept on probability the principal is establishing, I just think it misrepresents itself.

    Until probability is 100% either way, we can't make an afermative claim either way.
    I'll even go so far as to say that if you have to make plans regarding the cat, you have to assume it is both, but that's not the same as stating that it IS both.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    If life -is- found on other planets, does this disprove the Bible's story of Creation?
    The story of creation is not proven. Your assumption that the story of creation is true, is false.

    In fact, evolution counters it. We are not products of two people who lived for over 900 years with one of them being born from a rib.

    Will the religious still believe in the Bible and the story of creation? Of course, since sentient beings from other planets have no bearing on the Abrahamic religions and the story of creation.
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntary View Post
    The story of creation is not proven.
    Irrelevant.
    The question does not presume, nor does it hinge on, the story of creation to be proven. If said story were proven, then the questoin would be moot.

    In fact, evolution counters it.
    Hardly. It is entirely possible for Creation to happen in such a way to make evolution seem plauisble.

    So...
    If life -is- found on other planets, does this disprove the Bible's story of Creation?

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Irrelevant.
    The question does not presume, nor does it hinge on, the story of creation to be proven. If said story were proven, then the questoin would be moot.
    Its not irrelevant. You are assuming that the story of creation is true and asking if the discovery of sentient life on other planets would prove it false.

    Hardly. It is entirely possible for Creation to happen in such a way to make evolution seem plauisble.
    We are talking Biblical creation in genesis, not some form of deistic creation. Is it possible for a god to create the universe, set it motion, and allow evolution to happen? Sure, there is a possibility, but when you compare genesis to scientific evidence, the genesis story does not hold up.

    So...
    If life -is- found on other planets, does this disprove the Bible's story of Creation?
    Disprove? It hasn't been proven in the first place.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntary View Post
    Its not irrelevant. You are assuming that the story of creation is true and asking if the discovery of sentient life on other planets would prove it false.
    Read what I wrote:
    -The question does not presume, nor does it hinge on, the story of creation to be proven.
    -If said story were proven, then the questoin would be moot.

    We are talking Biblical creation in genesis, not some form of deistic creation. Is it possible for a god to create the universe, set it motion, and allow evolution to happen? Sure, there is a possibility, but when you compare genesis to scientific evidence, the genesis story does not hold up.
    This is only true if you interpret Genesis literally.
    The question denotes no such presumption.

    Disprove? It hasn't been proven in the first place.
    If all you wanted to do was avoid the question, you should not have bothered rersponding in the first place.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Read what I wrote:
    -The question does not presume, nor does it hinge on, the story of creation to be proven.
    -If said story were proven, then the questoin would be moot.
    You are asking if a hypothetical story would be disproved with the discovery of sentient life on other planets. It is a nonsense question since the hypothetical story was not proven in the first place.

    Would the discovery of sentient life disprove the Bubuka creation story, the Massai creation story, the Voodoo creation story, ect?

    This is only true if you interpret Genesis literally.
    The question denotes no such presumption.
    That is an on going problem of demarcating the literal from the metaphorical. There is no standard and it varies among people and changes with time.

    If all you wanted to do was avoid the question, you should not have bothered rersponding in the first place.
    I answered it in my very first reply. It is you that ignored it, so I will say it again. Discovery of sentient life has no bearing on the creation story and could be easily rationalized by saying that God never gave divinely inspiration to the authors of sentient life on other planets.
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntary View Post
    You are asking if a hypothetical story would be disproved with the discovery of sentient life on other planets.
    If that's how you want to put it, yes -- would they hypothesis set forth in the bible be disproven by finding life on other planets?

    I answered it in my very first reply. It is you that ignored it, so I will say it again. Discovery of sentient life has no bearing on the creation story and could be easily rationalized by saying that God never gave divinely inspiration to the authors of sentient life on other planets.
    Your first response, the one I responded to:

    The story of creation is not proven. Your assumption that the story of creation is true, is false.

    In fact, evolution counters it. We are not products of two people who lived for over 900 years with one of them being born from a rib.

    Will the religious still believe in the Bible and the story of creation? Of course, since sentient beings from other planets have no bearing on the Abrahamic religions and the story of creation.
    Nowhere in here is found your response that "Discovery of sentient life has no bearing on the creation story".

    But...thank you for actually addressing the question.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by stalin_was_a_nice_being View Post
    yes, because the whole idea of a God creating a people is ridiculous to begin with. And life on another planet will prove to all that we are not unique.
    Without life, I see no reason for God; I think the two are inter-twined.
    No one ever said that we were unique.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No, the Bible disproves the Bible. The Bible isn't consistent with scientific fact.

    Fact: The world-drowing flood described for Noah....didn't happen.

    Period.

    That's it.

    No flood.

    The myth is....a myth, not true.

    End of argument.
    Some parts of the Bible have been historically verified, such as places and names. So, just be careful when you make claims like that. It's not ENTIRELY proven, but it does have truth within it.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Some parts of the Bible have been historically verified, such as places and names. So, just be careful when you make claims like that. It's not ENTIRELY proven, but it does have truth within it.
    Has Jesus been proven other than one blurb by the historians of the time?

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