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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Who knows. Just saying, **** gets lost in translation and flood evidence goes away.
    Flood evidence doesn't go away like that. Strata containing fossils just don't disappear. What we should see in a global flood is similar mass and sized organisms in the same strata, aka woolly mammoths, mastodons, moderately large theropods from all the Dinosaur eras, early large carnivores and modern African elephants in the same layer. That happens nowhere. Furthermore, we should see small dinosaurs in the same layer with medium sized mammals from all eras. Again, no evidence of that anywhere. Flood believers come up with total bat**** arguments like mammals outran dinosaurs. Apparently they think Giant sloths are more nimble then Coelophysis . Furthermore, slightly MORE complex clams were able to outlive slightly less complex claim entirely as a species without a single member of the less complex outliving a single member of a more complex. **** makes no sense. Furthermore, we should see types of material sorted by density and weight globally. That doesn't happen anywhere aside from major catastrophes such as the asteroid that killed off the dinos that left a uniform iridium layer across the planet. There frankly is no evidence whatsoever that a global flood ever occurred.

    When a belief system argues that hydrological sorting by mass and density doesn't occur despite being shown true in your sink, that belief is absolute garbage.
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Flood evidence doesn't go away like that. Strata containing fossils just don't disappear. What we should see in a global flood is similar mass and sized organisms in the same strata, aka woolly mammoths, mastodons, moderately large theropods from all the Dinosaur eras, early large carnivores and modern African elephants in the same layer. That happens nowhere. Furthermore, we should see small dinosaurs in the same layer with medium sized mammals from all eras. Again, no evidence of that anywhere. Flood believers come up with total bat**** arguments like mammals outran dinosaurs. Apparently they think Giant sloths are more nimble then Coelophysis . Furthermore, slightly MORE complex clams were able to outlive slightly less complex claim entirely as a species without a single member of the less complex outliving a single member of a more complex. **** makes no sense. Furthermore, we should see types of material sorted by density and weight globally. That doesn't happen anywhere aside from major catastrophes such as the asteroid that killed off the dinos that left a uniform iridium layer across the planet. There frankly is no evidence whatsoever that a global flood ever occurred.

    When a belief system argues that hydrological sorting by mass and density doesn't occur despite being shown true in your sink, that belief is absolute garbage.

    What I was saying is that it might have APPEARED to be a worldwide flood to people because what they saw get flooded, was the only world they knew. Do you think they had any idea what was farther than their borders in ancient times?? Most of these stories pre-date continent spanning (or even region spanning) peoples.


    SO let's say some backwater tribe in Asia gets flooded out. They percieve that the World, actually the known world to them, gets flooded. And then add to that translation issues, which apparently aren't possible because of the Universal Grammar theory that paris brought up...cause...ya know how ancient languages were about as different as Italian and Spanish...


    and wtf...Clams? really? CLAMS?! Don't bring the clams into this because you KNOW what picture I'm going to post...

    EDIT: Too late.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    What I was saying is that it might have APPEARED to be a worldwide flood to people because what they saw get flooded, was the only world they knew. Do you think they had any idea what was farther than their borders in ancient times?? Most of these stories pre-date continent spanning (or even region spanning) peoples.
    Most likely the black sea flooded, got written into the Epic of Gilgamesh, which followed the trade routes, got written into the Enuma Elish, traveled further down the trade routes and ended up in the oral traditions of the Israelites who then wrote it into the Torah. Other flood myths are likely because places in the world flood, simple fact of living on this planet. That doesn't equate to a single global flood ever happening.

    I have yet to see even a half baked argument to support a global flood based on actual scientific evidence.
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    I have yet to see even a half baked argument to support a global flood based on actual scientific evidence.
    Now that is surprising, as the conspiracy forum is filled with half-baked theories of all colors.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Now that is surprising, as the conspiracy forum is filled with half-baked theories of all colors.
    I try to stay out of that forum for obvious reasons.
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Most likely the black sea flooded, got written into the Epic of Gilgamesh, which followed the trade routes, got written into the Enuma Elish, traveled further down the trade routes and ended up in the oral traditions of the Israelites who then wrote it into the Torah. Other flood myths are likely because places in the world flood, simple fact of living on this planet. That doesn't equate to a single global flood ever happening.

    I have yet to see even a half baked argument to support a global flood based on actual scientific evidence.
    We were in agreement. Except I was over here, and you were like two steps to the side of me.

    We seem to argue the same side of arguments, you and I.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    What I was saying is that it might have APPEARED to be a worldwide flood to people because what they saw get flooded, was the only world they knew. Do you think they had any idea what was farther than their borders in ancient times?? Most of these stories pre-date continent spanning (or even region spanning) peoples.


    SO let's say some backwater tribe in Asia gets flooded out. They percieve that the World, actually the known world to them, gets flooded. And then add to that translation issues, which apparently aren't possible because of the Universal Grammar theory that paris brought up...cause...ya know how ancient languages were about as different as Italian and Spanish...


    and wtf...Clams? really? CLAMS?! Don't bring the clams into this because you KNOW what picture I'm going to post...

    EDIT: Too late.

    That's not a clam that's a Geoduck
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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    That's not a clam that's a Geoduck
    That's not a Geoduck, it's a Panopea Abrupta, a species of very large saltwater clam


    Science'd.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    That's not a Geoduck, it's a Panopea Abrupta, a species of very large saltwater clam


    Science'd.
    They are the same thing...

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoduck]Geoduck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Wow.

    We're smart.

    I say tomatoes, he say tomatoes.
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