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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Who says that every word is 100% literal. Hebrew and Aramaic (sorry for a misspelling) are very estoteric languages.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No, the Bible disproves the Bible. The Bible isn't consistent with scientific fact.

    Fact: The world-drowing flood described for Noah....didn't happen.

    Period.

    That's it.

    No flood.

    The myth is....a myth, not true.

    End of argument.

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    Was Mary's hymen allegorical? You have to take that article on faith.

    But the Bible contains known factual errors, so it cannot be taken on faith.

    Would you mind terribly if we stayed sort of halfway on topic, rather than segue into another Bible-bashing fest?

    Aliens compatibility with the Bible was the question, I believe.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Who says that every word is 100% literal. Hebrew and Aramaic (sorry for a misspelling) are very estoteric languages.
    If it's not literal, it can't be taken on faith, and the whole structure of Christianity is completely dependent on the veracity of the claim that Mary wasn't getting laid. That can't be verified and only if the Bible is proven true in the parts that are testable is it sensible to believe the unproven parts that don't make any sense in light of common experience.

    Common experience says that there are a many ways a girl can get pregnant without having to explain it with horny angels.

    But if Jesus isn't magically contrived, then he's just a man, just a philosopher, and not something worth dying for.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Would you mind terribly if we stayed sort of halfway on topic, rather than segue into another Bible-bashing fest?

    Aliens compatibility with the Bible was the question, I believe.
    No, I don't mind.

    Right now I am staying on topic, since this thread originated at a bible bashing fest. The Bible is internally inconsistent, it's inconsistent with the real world, and finding life on Europa or Mars isn't going to alter that or make it more inconsistent.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Oh good grief.

    Another potentially intresting thread derailed entirely.

    Bye.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    If it's not literal, it can't be taken on faith, and the whole structure of Christianity is completely dependent on the veracity of the claim that Mary wasn't getting laid. That can't be verified and only if the Bible is proven true in the parts that are testable is it sensible to believe the unproven parts that don't make any sense in light of common experience.

    Common experience says that there are a many ways a girl can get pregnant without having to explain it with horny angels.

    But if Jesus isn't magically contrived, then he's just a man, just a philosopher, and not something worth dying for.
    I usually don't quibble too much over details. Also the main point of Christianity like 99.9% of religion is to not be a d*ck, not that Mary got knocked up as a virgin.

    Like Goshin, I have no interest in going through this. In the end, neither of us can be 100% sure on everything,we'll never reach a conclusion to this, yadda yadda yadda, if you want to interpret this as me running away, fine, cya

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Inspired by this story:

    The Associated Press: Vatican looks to heavens for signs of alien life

    If life -is- found on other planets, does this disprove the Bible's story of Creation?

    Please be sure to explain your response

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    Even if we put stock in the literalist-creationist misinterpretation of Genesis, I don't think Life on other planets would prove it wrong.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    It wouldn't necessarily disprove the Bible, but finding out that other civilizations were "out there", especially if it were shown that they could come here, could possibly destroy our religious and political structures due to mass hysteria. I really never thought of it in the context of one religious text, but more in the context of how people would react.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    It wouldn't necessarily disprove the Bible, but finding out that other civilizations were "out there", especially if it were shown that they could come here, could possibly destroy our religious and political structures due to mass hysteria. I really never thought of it in the context of one religious text, but more in the context of how people would react.
    Didn't NASA do some study showing the religious persons would adapt quite easily to the news of aliens, where as secular/atheists would have the most trouble?

    Religious folks already have a historical context and frame work where aliens would fit in.

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    Re: Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Didn't NASA do some study showing the religious persons would adapt quite easily to the news of aliens, where as secular/atheists would have the most trouble?
    I don't know. I have not read or heard about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post

    Religious folks already have a historical context and frame work where aliens would fit in.
    That seems to be true, but most of the religious folks I am acquainted with would have difficulty dealing with it. It's easy for people to say they are open-minded to other possibilities, but when faced with actual real circumstances which challenge their beliefs, it becomes a new ball-game. I'm thinking particularly of the more evangelical types who take everything in the Bible literally (I'm familiar with the mindset- I was raised in a similar environment).
    If you read the Bible with an open mind, many things could be explained by the existence of other planetary inhabitants, and there is artwork from hundreds of years ago depicting what looks like what many people believe are "extra-terrestrial aliens".
    I have several friends who claim to have "seen" them. I remain skeptical until I see evidence myself, but I keep my mind open to all possibilities.

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