View Poll Results: Long school day to close achievement gap?

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  • Yes, every child should spend more time in school!

    11 29.73%
  • Only the children who need it should spend more time in school.

    9 24.32%
  • No one should spend more time in school

    4 10.81%
  • I can't stand Obama, he makes me sick with his grandiosity

    7 18.92%
  • I believe in unschooling. Schools are brainwashing institutions

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Thread: Longer school day for all to help disadvantaged kids do better?

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    Re: Longer school day for all to help disadvantaged kids do better?

    If mom and dad are at work then the kids should be in school.

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    Re: Longer school day for all to help disadvantaged kids do better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Year-round school and longer school days are both good plans. But we really do need to cut down-- way down-- on the amount of homework that's being assigned. It's counterproductive.
    You can't ignore the fact that children are just not interested in the curriculum.

    For our education process to be successful we need to do much more than just change the day length, or school year.
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    Re: Longer school day for all to help disadvantaged kids do better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Year-round school and longer school days are both good plans. But we really do need to cut down-- way down-- on the amount of homework that's being assigned. It's counterproductive.
    Total and utter BULL****. What we need are qualified teachers and a real curriculum that's worth a ****. We don't need longer hours. We need to teach our children information that's worth learning. Homeschoolers prove this every day by using less hours to get more done.
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    Re: Longer school day for all to help disadvantaged kids do better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    You can't ignore the fact that children are just not interested in the curriculum.
    Can't change it, either. It's something we have to work around, because the curriculum is the material we've determined they need to learn. Best we can do is make it as interesting as possible and then use best teaching practices so that they absorb as much as possible despite the lack of interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    For our education process to be successful we need to do much more than just change the day length, or school year.
    Needing to do much more to fix the process does not mean that this is not still a necessary step.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    We don't need longer hours. We need to teach our children information that's worth learning. Homeschoolers prove this every day by using less hours to get more done.
    Homeschooling works because the parents are totally invested in their child's education. The entire reason the welfare schools exist in the first place is that not every parent is either willing or capable of making that investment, and our society has determined that every child should be given at least some opportunity to get an education. My frustration with the school system is that our society apparently does not consider this to be a priority and is not willing to invest sufficient resources to give every student a good opportunity.

    And homeschooling parents are capable of using everyday life to provide teachable moments in a way that professional teachers can never dream of. Claiming that they use "less hours" is misleading; they can easily spend far more time in actual instruction than a professional teacher whose efforts must be divided between administrative and clerical duties in addition to instruction.

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    Re: Longer school day for all to help disadvantaged kids do better?

    I think the year should be longer, not each day.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Longer school day for all to help disadvantaged kids do better?

    I'm in favor of both, but given my choice I would prefer that we extend the school year.

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    Re: Longer school day for all to help disadvantaged kids do better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I'm in favor of both, but given my choice I would prefer that we extend the school year.
    I think we should teach children to farm and be self-sufficient.
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    Re: Longer school day for all to help disadvantaged kids do better?

    Can't change it, either. It's something we have to work around, because the curriculum is the material we've determined they need to learn. Best we can do is make it as interesting as possible and then use best teaching practices so that they absorb as much as possible despite the lack of interest.
    I think you'd have to change society's expectations about education, and attitude toward children, and toward familial and civic duty; in response, the next generation of children would have a different attitude toward school, as do children in, say, Japan, who have longer school hours, more school days, and more school years, a drop-out rate of less than 1%, and far, far higher academic performance.
    Education doesn't exist in a vacuum; it's a product and a reflection of society.
    Here in the US, for better or for worse, we are raising very autonomous children; we value individuality, autonomy and self-esteem in our children. We are not, as a general rule, cultivating compliance, obedience, modesty, and conformity in our children.
    This causes issues with our educational system.

    As long as the US is what it is, there will continue to be issues with our educational system, and we will continue to turn out inferior scholars, as compared to the rest of the industrialized world.
    Since we all claim to love the US and everything it stands for, perhaps we should just accept that and move on.

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    Re: Longer school day for all to help disadvantaged kids do better?

    YAY! A longer school day and STILL no recess!

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    Re: Longer school day for all to help disadvantaged kids do better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I'm in favor of both, but given my choice I would prefer that we extend the school year.
    id be ok with with extending the school day if it started later.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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