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Thread: The Senate Will Pass The Healthcare Bill

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    Re: The Senate Will Pass The Healthcare Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    "The bill" is a broad term, since we do not yet know what "the bill" will look like.

    Will they pass a bill with the public option in it? Probably not; they'd never get the 60 votes necessary.

    Will they pass a bill which doesn't do much except further regulate insurance companies? That's quite possible.
    There's one thing I don't understand about the 60 votes thing. Isn't it dependent upon which side has the greater will? I mean, a filibuster can start, go a long time, and ultimately fail, as it did with at least one of the civil rights acts.

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    Re: The Senate Will Pass The Healthcare Bill

    I don't want the bill to pass because I want poor people to die of diseases that are otherwise treatable. At least that's what people keep telling me my motivation is.

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    Re: The Senate Will Pass The Healthcare Bill

    They will, if they what what is good for them.
    Being a Senator is a cushy, very well paying job...with unbelievably good health care benefits.
    But I fear that the health care reform bill will be so watered down as to be useless.
    We have taken the first step, now we must act again and again to strengthen this bill.
    Eventually I'd like to see the end of the insurance companies...
    We can have the world's finest health care for all Americans, not just the wealthy.

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    Re: The Senate Will Pass The Healthcare Bill

    WTF: You mean "a" health care bill.

    Poll can't be answered as written.

    Certainly the Senate won't pass the abortion the House passed, and there will have to be reconciliation between the two.

    And if it gets delayed long enough, which is why the Messiah is in such a burning rush to pass it soonest, it'll be election time again and it won't be passed at all.

    Which is a good thing.

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    Re: The Senate Will Pass The Healthcare Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'm leaning on no... they won't pass it with a 60 vote. They may pass it via reconcilliation but that I think is a defeat not a victory for the Democrats.
    If anything passes the Messiah's desk for his signature, it's a defeat for freedom and the American people.

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    Re: The Senate Will Pass The Healthcare Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Why would that be defeat. I would see that as a victory and a victory for the American people.
    Maybe a defeat for insurance companies. Is that what you are referring to?
    It's a political defeat. It shows that the majority party cannot influence their own members - not to even speak of influencing the opposition.

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    Re: The Senate Will Pass The Healthcare Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I don't want the bill to pass because I want poor people to die of diseases that are otherwise treatable. At least that's what people keep telling me my motivation is.
    Yeah, cuz we all know it's all about poverty and poor people....

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    Re: The Senate Will Pass The Healthcare Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I don't want the bill to pass because I want poor people to die of diseases that are otherwise treatable. At least that's what people keep telling me my motivation is.
    Works for me.

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    Re: The Senate Will Pass The Healthcare Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's a political defeat. It shows that the majority party cannot influence their own members - not to even speak of influencing the opposition.
    No. It shows the the majority of the majority party are not going to be held hostage by a couple of rouge senators.
    As far as influencing the opposition....that is laughable. Do you really believe that the "party of no (minus one)" has given any indication that they are willing to engage in negotiating?
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: The Senate Will Pass The Healthcare Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I don't want the bill to pass because I want poor people to die of diseases that are otherwise treatable. At least that's what people keep telling me my motivation is.
    Is that anything like Palin claiming that the bill had kill granny death panels?
    Just askin'
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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