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    Re: Political 180

    I was a democrat when I was a kid and did not know any better. I became Republican after many years of education. I became a conservative after all the above and many years of travel on several continents and extended stays in Europe and Asia.


    Now I distrust both major parties and believe they are both owned by the bankers.

    To come to this point is necessary to ignore all they say and observe only what those in power do.


    Words are their weapons and they are cheap. They are publicly delivered daily.
    In contrast...They like to hide their actions or throw distractions so it is necessary to stay focused and objectively observe to find out what really is going on.

    Currently the American people are being done a disservice on several governmental levels.
    Last edited by akyron; 11-13-09 at 07:19 PM.
    Thank you

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    Re: Political 180

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post

    Now I distrust both major parties and believe they are both owned by the bankers.
    This is exactly right......I just didn't want to come out and say it because most Americans can't comprehend the big picture.

    Most Americans focus on their own little bubble with petty immediate problems and do not realize the pattern of slow and steady changes that are heading for a clear and distinct goal.

    The American government is sold out.
    Last edited by creativedreams; 11-13-09 at 07:25 PM.

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    Re: Political 180

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    What is a "Minarchist"?

    Probably just another lable.... and I hate lables. (when they apply to me)
    Minimal amount of government, but the government still exists.

    Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24
    "True law is right reason in agreement with nature . . . Whoever is disobedient is fleeing from himself and denying his human nature [and] will suffer the worst penalties . . ." - Cicero

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    Re: Political 180

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    bwahahahaha
    I'm a libertarianish, live-and-let-live kind of conservative who is concerned with balancing the budget, but I'm still no fun at parties

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    Re: Political 180

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    This is exactly right......I just didn't want to come out and say it because most Americans can't comprehend the big picture.

    Most Americans focus on their own little bubble with petty immediate problems and do not realize the pattern of slow and steady changes that are heading for a clear and distinct goal.

    The American government is sold out.
    How will they learn if you're not brave enough to come out and say it? Get your message out there! You can be the Patriot who starts the ****storm that puts America back on track.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Twain
    In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.

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    Re: Political 180

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    I'm a libertarianish, live-and-let-live kind of conservative who is concerned with balancing the budget, but I'm still no fun at parties
    I think you're fun.

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    Re: Political 180

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    How will they learn if you're not brave enough to come out and say it? Get your message out there! You can be the Patriot who starts the ****storm that puts America back on track.
    Mentality of the average person instantly places a shield of denial when confronted with compelling information that goes against the very root of their beliefs.

    Denial is real mental defense and very common.

    Denial is a defense mechanism in the brain that keeps a shield of protection from having to deal with issues that may be extremely hard to comprehend.

    Many great people that have advanced society have gone through great ridicule by the average masses that could not comprehend the implications of their research.

    Perhaps I will get more into this later...
    Last edited by creativedreams; 11-13-09 at 10:38 PM.

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    Re: Political 180

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    My bad,I'm so use to using sarcasm in daily life I sometimes forget that it can be misinterpreted in text.
    No problem. Emoticons can help get the point across when text can't.

    I was raised in a hardcore Democrat family....everyone always voted Democrat no matter who was on the ticket.I was always told that Republicans were rich and only cared about the rich.

    I bought into this mentality until I enlisted in the Army....Just about everyone in the Army is a Conservative (or so it seems).Seeing that most of these guys were not rich and got along pretty damn good with minorites really changed my perspective.Plus it did'nt hurt that Army values/ethics reflect Conservative thinking.

    You work hard and do a good job...You get promoted no matter your skin color,gender or personel wealth.
    This seems like mostly correlation. Do you have a more causative argument; e.g., why are people in the army who are not rich 'conservative'? I am not so sure that army values and ethics are necessarily 'conservative'. How do you mean? The vast majority of ideologies agree with the last sentence quoted.

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    Re: Political 180

    On certain issues I have. I used to be strongly pro life and opposed to the legalization of marijuana. However, I've since changed these views after becoming more aware of both sides of the argument. Many of political beliefs were that of my parents and I never really questioned them at that time.

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    Re: Political 180

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Currently the American people are being done a disservice on several governmental levels.
    I gave you thanks for this last part here. I agree completely.

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