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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I am asking the people who are pro gay marriage this question..........
    Yup, absolutely can. Someone who is against ANY government intervention to marriage is not a bigot. Someone who believes that the word marriage should be relegated to religion, and the term civil union should be used for ALL kinds of "marriages"...hetero- or homo-...is not a bigot. These are just two examples that I can think of.
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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    Yes, you can be against it and not be a bigot. I've seen people use some very persuasive arguments against it.

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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Why is it that some people feel entitled to certain rights and privileges while feeling justified in denying those same right/privileges to others?
    Like who? Children? Should a forty year old man and a nine year old girl be allowed to be married?

    Should a nymph and an comma patient get married?

    Should a man and his chihuahua dog be given the same rights as a heterosexual couple?

    Do not all civilized people believe that certain rights are for certain people under certain circumstances?

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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt633 View Post
    Like who? Children? Should a forty year old man and a nine year old girl be allowed to be married?

    Should a nymph and an comma patient get married?

    Should a man and his chihuahua dog be given the same rights as a heterosexual couple?

    Do not all civilized people believe that certain rights are for certain people under certain circumstances?
    Stop. Your argument is ridiculous and does not help. A 9 year old cannot consent to marriage. A coma patient cannot consent to marriage. A chihuahua cannot consent to marriage. You are choosing irrelevant examples that do NOT fit the circumstances.
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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Yes, you can be against it and not be a bigot. I've seen people use some very persuasive arguments against it.
    Such as? Besides the ones cap mentioned
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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    I voted 'no', but with some explanation. There is no legitimate reason to oppose gay marriage. Denying gay people marriage rights hurts gays and has no impact whatsoever on heterosexuals. So, supporting gay marriage bans could not be motivated by anything other than a desire to hurt gay people. That is clear cut bigotry.

    That said, I do believe that there are people out there who haven't thought the topic through all the way through. So, I guess opposition to gay marriage could be motivated by ignorance rather than bigotry, but with a big issue like this that directly effects people's lives and deals with fundamental principals of our constitution and whatnot people have a deep obligation to educate themselves about it.

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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    Yes! , but its difficult..
    I feel that a man can be bigoted and not know it.
    I attach standards to marriage, I consider it to be nigh sacred, not something to be treated without respect or to be altered to suit the changing times.
    Back in the day, the homosexuals were hiding in the closets (not that I blame them either), and people were much more economical with their writing than they are today.
    No one wrote " a marriage is a pact between a man and a woman", the latter part was omitted, people just knew, it was just accepted.
    Details, millions of them, would come later..
    I may well change my mind before I die, right now I have a dislike of the militant homosexual, they have made so many gains, now they should be grateful and give society a break to catch up...
    You can call this whatever you want.

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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Stop. Your argument is ridiculous and does not help. A 9 year old cannot consent to marriage. A coma patient cannot consent to marriage. A chihuahua cannot consent to marriage. You are choosing irrelevant examples that do NOT fit the circumstances.
    In some societies, "consent" means nothing, this may even apply to ours. Marriage should be between two humans of opposite sex.

    A union of two or more can be for just about anything. Lets have this for the man and his dog; or for two homosexuals.

    Lets keep marriage as it is, between a man and a woman....is that so hard ?

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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Then the vast majority of Americans are (by your definition) bigoted. The big question is why people should care. It's kind of stupid way to think of bigotry.
    All you have to do is look at the history of America and you will see that overall we are a very bigoted country.
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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Why is it that some people feel entitled to certain rights and privileges while feeling justified in denying those same right/privileges to others?
    Are you talking about congress? I agree if you are. Get rid of them! They have a ratio of rich like 40 times above the norm. It is a direct conflict of interest to be creating the laws making you rich.
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