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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    This post is just flat out ridiculous... You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you want to go around ranting about how god hates gay people and that they should be denied the right to marry, fine, be that way, but you can't do that and at the same time pretend you aren't anti-gay and that you oppose discriminating against gay people.
    Being anti-incest makes me anti-family, then?

    Being anti-dependent 'marriage makes me anti-children?

    I oppose children marrying so I must therefore oppose child labor laws, according to you.
    Last edited by Jerry; 11-08-09 at 02:50 PM.

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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Being anti-incest makes me anti-family, then?
    Well, in a manner of speaking, yes Jerry. But it's not a crime to want forks in your family tree.



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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Being anti-incest makes me anti-family, then?
    No, that would make you anti-people-who-commit-incest though.

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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    I keep seeing people say gays don't have equal rights. But any man is free to marry any woman who is agreeable, just as any woman may marry any man. Seems equal to me. Now for any man to marry any other man seems like that would be an additional right.

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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    No, that would make you anti-people-who-commit-incest though.
    Not the people, but the behavior. There's a difference.

    People are not illegal, though their behaviors can be.

    If I object to gays doing one thing that doesn't mean I object to gays doing some other thing. Each behavior is judged on it's own merits.
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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Not the people, but the behavior. There's a difference.
    Not really. It's like saying "I'm not anti-semetic, I just believe that practicing Judaism is morally wrong and I support laws making it illegal to attend Jewish temples".

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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleoftheRoad View Post
    I keep seeing people say gays don't have equal rights. But any man is free to marry any woman who is agreeable, just as any woman may marry any man. Seems equal to me. Now for any man to marry any other man seems like that would be an additional right.
    I can't believe how often seemingly reasonable people keep making this argument... It's so obviously ludicrous... To use my example above, it's like making a law saying that it is illegal to attend a Jewish temple and rationalizing it by arguing that it isn't discriminatory against Jews because they're still free to attend Christian Churches just like everybody else...

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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleoftheRoad View Post
    I keep seeing people say gays don't have equal rights. But any man is free to marry any woman who is agreeable, just as any woman may marry any man. Seems equal to me. Now for any man to marry any other man seems like that would be an additional right.
    While naturally they are not created equal (for obvious reasons) under the law, are they theoretically equal? (Don't count "Assault on a Female" type laws, those don't count )

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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleoftheRoad View Post
    I keep seeing people say gays don't have equal rights. But any man is free to marry any woman who is agreeable, just as any woman may marry any man. Seems equal to me. Now for any man to marry any other man seems like that would be an additional right.
    I love seeing this silly argument. Tell me...what if a man does not want to marry a woman but wants to marry a man? How is it then equal? Explain why that should be prohibited?
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    Re: Can a person be against Gay Marriage and not be a bigot?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Not really. It's like saying "I'm not anti-semetic, I just believe that practicing Judaism is morally wrong and I support laws making it illegal to attend Jewish temples".
    No one is stopping gays from associating with whomever they please, though.

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