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    Re: Fort Hood - Terrorist Attack?

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    Detectives have already stated this was NOT a terrorist plot.
    But could it not be defined as a terrorist act? Maybe not a plot where it was premotivated but a spur of the moment act?
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    Re: Fort Hood - Terrorist Attack?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    I been reading about how he told other doctors that non-believers should be beheaded and have boiling water poured down their throats. If true? It did have something to do with his religion in his messed up mind.
    If it's in that order, then Muslims make no damn sense. Their procedures and their symbolism/holy metaphors are out of whack.

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    Re: Fort Hood - Terrorist Attack?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    What we need to do is not worry about isolated incidences of violence at a military base.

    In the end you are more likely to die in a car accident.
    Of course people should worry about this considering that the FBI and our so called good government failed the families of these victims and if we do not worry and look into it? This could happen again. I mean he was on the FBI watch list for **** sake!
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    Re: Fort Hood - Terrorist Attack?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Of course people should worry about this considering that the FBI and our so called good government failed the families of these victims and if we do not worry and look into it? This could happen again. I mean he was on the FBI watch list for **** sake!
    Yep. We can't afford to pass **** off as "maybe" anymore. That ended in 2001.

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    Re: Fort Hood - Terrorist Attack?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    One imagines there is more security than this, on military bases.
    From what I've read, I got the impression that this occured in a medical clinic, so I wouldn't expect increased security in that particular location, but I'm not ex-military, so I don't really know for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post

    One also hopes that if a soldier exhibits signs of mental illness, he or she will receive help.
    One of the articles I read today on the MSNBC site said that one of his peers had noticed what seemed like some irrational expression of thoughts and beliefs, but was hesitant to take it up the chain of command for fear of being perceived as "anti-Islamic" (or something along those lines). The PC aspects of society are probably filtering through the military ranks, if I had to guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    It hardly inspires confidence when the very people who are supposed to be doing the diagnosing and treating are going on shooting rampages.
    That is one of the primary reasons I am hesitant to declare this is "terrorism" as opposed to the mental breakdown of an unstable individual, albeit his religious beliefs probably played into the course of action he took.

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    Re: Fort Hood - Terrorist Attack?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    If your child were stationed at a US military base when this occurred, as mine is, you would be afraid too.
    Indeed - not just a family member being stationed, but the fact that civis are on and off bases all the time, too, makes this disturbing - not all killed in this terrorist attack (or massacre if you please) were soldiers.

    One imagines there is more security than this, on military bases.
    One also hopes that if a soldier exhibits signs of mental illness, he or she will receive help.
    It hardly inspires confidence when the very people who are supposed to be doing the diagnosing and treating are going on shooting rampages.
    This is true - and the military has several programs and countless people who are suppose to do exactly that, and they do their job well ... but obviously there's more to it than meets the eye.

    They have the psych-Dr's to monitor the soldiers, but who monitors the psych-Dr's? - This definitely shows some cracks in the sytem and, obviously, they're VERY serious.
    "Terrorist attack" or not - this problem is quite serious and needs to be addressed immediately.

    This current situation highlights some major problems that has never been dealt with before. My husband, for example, has to reassign for reevaluation all of his troops who were evaluated by Hasan and given the 'clear' to continue duty.
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    Re: Fort Hood - Terrorist Attack?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Of course people should worry about this considering that the FBI and our so called good government failed the families of these victims and if we do not worry and look into it? This could happen again. I mean he was on the FBI watch list for **** sake!
    Oh give me a break. People die in crimes and accidents all day long. One guy went nuts, it happens at schools etc.

    So typical "it's the government!" Lets not put the blame where it belongs. Squarely on the shoulders of the nut case that did it. This has nothing to do with a watch list, you are still innocent until proven guilty. What were they supposed to do lock him up for no reason? Welcome to thought crime folks, you heard it here first!
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    Re: Fort Hood - Terrorist Attack?

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Yep. We can't afford to pass **** off as "maybe" anymore. That ended in 2001.
    Thought crime again! Go for it, start arresting peopel or detaining them for thinking about terrorism or being on a watch list.

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    Re: Fort Hood - Terrorist Attack?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Thought crime again! Go for it, start arresting peopel or detaining them for thinking about terrorism or being on a watch list.

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    At some point thought DOES become 'probable cause' or 'imminent danger' among other things - when it comes to soldiers this is crucial. You're mental balance and focus is extremely important in regards to deployment and functioning on the battlefied.

    He wasn't a regular doctor - he was cleared for deployment and if he was having obvious problems in the US then what would have happened if he DID deploy?

    A soldier might not show signs of "being homicidal" or "suicidal" - but still be considered unstable enough ot the point that *more* stress could cause too many problems. It's just a fact that going TO a theater of war CAUSES problems even with people who were squared away before they left.

    We're not talking about civilian issues, here - we're talking about military duties and the unique problems tied directly with it's nature. There's a huge difference. While it might not be such a concern to intervene with a civilian who had these types of issues it is important to do EXACTLY that for a deploying member of the military.
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    Re: Fort Hood - Terrorist Attack?

    Psychologically, we teach soldiers to marginalize and hate the enemy. What if a Muslim is being taught to kill Muslims? Wouldn't that drive him nuts?

    Not only that but he is uniquely singled out to counsel traumatized vets who have returned from the Iraq war with all their unfinished business about Iraq Muslims and terrorists.
    Last edited by windovervocalcords; 11-09-09 at 10:21 AM.

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