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    2 3.45%
  • Franklin Pierce

    1 1.72%
  • Benjamin Harrison

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  • Jimmy Carter

    21 36.21%
  • James Buchanan

    3 5.17%
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    12 20.69%
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Thread: Worst President Ever?

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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    Riiiiiight....Listening to a woman without wanting any poonany.
    eh, Felt like being chivalric for a moment.

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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    The president has pull. That's his power to affect the Constitutional Amendments.
    The president has as much pull over who wins American Idol as he does over whether a constitutional amendment is approved. What exactly is your objection to women voting? The stupid bitches don't vote the way you think they should?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar
    Also, you people blame Bush for the economic failures of 2008, even though the critical legislations were enacted by FDR, Carter, and Clinton. You want it both ways?
    Who is "you people"?
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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    What did LBJ do that was so great it outweighed the negatives?
    I wouldn't say he did anything that outweighed the negatives. But the civil rights movement pulls him up from being a terrible president to being a slightly-below-average president.
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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post

    Who is "you people"?

    Awwwww **** dawg. He better not be talking about us. And by us I mean us blacks. Cause, I am black. Well 1/16th but it still counts.

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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    [quote=Kandahar;1058348073]You said that A) the Fed was created to provide loans to banks, B) the Fed was not loaning enough to banks during the Great Depression. That hardly sounds like a rational argument against the Fed's existence. That sounds like you want to out-Fed the Fed. And I would agree. They didn't expand the money supply NEARLY enough during the Depression, which certainly exacerbated the problem.

    What it sounds like is that you're choosing to ignore all of what was said except those parts you feel implies an inconsistency in a philosophy you're not capable of understanding, and meanwhile, you're refusing to grasp the gestalt of what was said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    How do you then conclude that the Depression could not have happened without the Fed? You stated that the economy was worse because the Fed wasn't loaning money to banks and allowed them to collapse. If the Fed hadn't existed (and thus, there had been no one to fulfill the objective of loaning money to banks, as you stated), how would the economy be better off?

    See what I mean? Did I not say that regional failures may have occured on the sector level? Did you miss that part? That's what normally happens in recessions. The Federal Reserve managed to turn a regular old recession into the worst economic disaster in history. ONLY the Fed was able to make the nation's entire economy collapse.

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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    What exactly is your objection to women voting? They don't vote the way you think they should?
    FYI he's already said that he meant the 18th amendment, not the 19th.

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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Awwwww **** dawg. He better not be talking about us. And by us I mean us blacks. Cause, I am black. Well 1/16th but it still counts.
    My ancestors came from Africa, too.

    They stopped in Ireland for twenty thousand years, but they were from Africa originally.

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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    What it sounds like is that you're choosing to ignore all of what was said except those parts you feel implies an inconsistency in a philosophy you're not capable of understanding, and meanwhile, you're refusing to grasp the gestalt of what was said.




    See what I mean? Did I not say that regional failures may have occured on the sector level? Did you miss that part? That's what normally happens in recessions. The Federal Reserve managed to turn a regular old recession into the worst economic disaster in history. ONLY the Fed was able to make the nation's entire economy collapse.
    HOW did the Fed turn regional problems into a national crisis?
    HOW would not having a Fed at all be superior to having a timid Fed, when you agree that the goal of loaning money to prevent bank runs is a worthy goal?
    And WHY has their only been one depression (which you and I agree was exacerbated by the Fed not loaning ENOUGH money) in the nearly 100 years since the Fed was established, instead of one every 10-15 years as was the norm prior to the establishment of the Fed?
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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I wouldn't say he did anything that outweighed the negatives. But the civil rights movement pulls him up from being a terrible president to being a slightly-below-average president.
    Getting the Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed over the filibuster lead by his own party is a serious plus.

    The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution was fifty minuses.

    The Great Society, unconstitutional and failure, was a major minus.

    Overall, LBJ sucked.

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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    HOW did the Fed turn regional problems into a national crisis?
    HOW would not having a Fed at all be superior to having a timid Fed, when you agree that the goal of loaning money to prevent bank runs is a worthy goal?
    And WHY has their only been one depression (which you and I agree was exacerbated by the Fed not loaning ENOUGH money) in the nearly 100 years since the Fed was established, instead of one every 10-15 years as was the norm prior to the establishment of the Fed?
    My question is why is the FED a private bank?

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