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  • Millard Fillmore

    2 3.45%
  • Franklin Pierce

    1 1.72%
  • Benjamin Harrison

    0 0%
  • Jimmy Carter

    21 36.21%
  • James Buchanan

    3 5.17%
  • Ronald Reagan

    12 20.69%
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Thread: Worst President Ever?

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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Bush was in control until 2006 as much as Obama is in control now. If you're the president and your party is in control of the legislative branch, then you effectively control 2 branches of government.
    The Messiah can pass ANY legislation he wants passed with only one single stupid snowe white rino vote.

    The Republicans under Bush could do nothing without significant support from the Democrats in the Senate.

    So, no, Bush was not "in control".

    The Messiah has a nearly filibuster proof Senate and huge majority in the House. He has more control than any president in the last half century.

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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    Um...no. You are right that most of what Scarecrow Akhbar said was false,
    Yeah, I noticed that. But not one person has called on it and pointed out that the 16th and 17th Amendments pre-dated his assumption of office.

    Makes ya kind of wonder how strong their confidence in their knowledge is.

    Anyhooo...while Wilson is clearly and by far still the worst president ever, he's not to blame for the IRS or the destruction of the Senate.

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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    The Messiah can pass ANY legislation he wants passed with only one single stupid snowe white rino vote.

    The Republicans under Bush could do nothing without significant support from the Democrats in the Senate.

    So, no, Bush was not "in control".

    The Messiah has a nearly filibuster proof Senate and huge majority in the House. He has more control than any president in the last half century.
    The Republicants had less votes (ie not filibuster proof, etc) and have, thus far, gotten more of their legislation passed. or at least I'm sure they did...

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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    The Messiah can pass ANY legislation he wants passed with only one single stupid snowe white rino vote.

    The Republicans under Bush could do nothing without significant support from the Democrats in the Senate.

    So, no, Bush was not "in control".

    The Messiah has a nearly filibuster proof Senate and huge majority in the House. He has more control than any president in the last half century.
    Yeah, I guess you're right, but he did have more power than a president with the opposing party in congress.

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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    Um...no. You are right that most of what Scarecrow Akhbar said was false, but you are also false by thinking Wilson kept us out of war.

    He single handedly put us in war in 1917 after claiming we were going to remain neutral for three years. Then he created the League of Nations (precursor to United Nations).

    He also passed the "Sedition Act of 1918" which shat on our freedom of speech against the US government during a time of war.

    Bush is considered one of the worse as well.

    Anyone see a trend?
    That some conservatives go against the trend of thought that states becoming involved in World War I and World War II was good and necessary, and that sacrificing freedom for security was not a moral virtue during times of foreseen danger?
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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    That some conservatives go against the trend of thought that states becoming involved in World War I and World War II was good and necessary, and that sacrificing freedom for security was not a moral virtue during times of foreseen danger?
    It's a pain to read through what you're saying and trying to understand your message.

    Look, World War II was completely different from World War I. We had no reason to show bias during WWI ain who we supported and it should have come as no surprise that the Germans eventually got annoyed with us. With WWII, we were just flat out attacked. Entry into WWI could have been prevented, but we were eventually dragged into WWII.

    Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24
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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    It's a pain to read through what you're saying and trying to understand your message.

    Look, World War II was completely different from World War I. We had no reason to show bias during WWI ain who we supported and it should have come as no surprise that the Germans eventually got annoyed with us. With WWII, we were just flat out attacked. Entry into WWI could have been prevented, but we were eventually dragged into WWII.
    Flat out attacked? What do you think Lend Lease and Cash-Carry was about? You didn't think this annoyed the Germans?
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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    Flat out attacked? What do you think Lend Lease and Cash-Carry was about? You didn't think this annoyed the Germans?
    The other difference in WWII worth mentioning was that there was a clear aggressor.

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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    Flat out attacked? What do you think Lend Lease and Cash-Carry was about? You didn't think this annoyed the Germans?
    Yeah, WWI we just had some financial stakes in (Did the Brits ever pay us back btw?) In WWII ze Germanz started blowin' our **** up.

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    Re: Worst President Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    quote=Kandahar;1058348203]Bubbles happen all the time, but they don't typically cause depressions. [quote
    OMG learn how to ****ing quote. That's like 3 times in a row now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar
    The Fed created the Great Bubble, the Fed burst the Great Bubble.

    Spongebob and Squidward rolled into one.
    But bubbles don't typically cause depressions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar
    You must have deliberately chose to ignore that I've already told you that the word "depression" is archaic for what we call "recession".
    Are you really going to claim that the economy is no more stable now than it was prior to the creation of the Fed? I'm using the commonly used definitions. As I'm using the terms, a recession is two or more consecutive quarters of negative growth. A depression is four or more consecutive quarters of negative growth, with an overall decline of >10% from peak to trough.

    We've had one depression since the establishment of the Fed. We were having one every 10-15 years prior to that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar
    Damn, you're wilfully ignorant.

    Try reading my posts, I see no need to repost them.



    You're only stating half the story.

    Get with the program, stop repeating your propaganda.
    I see you've backed yourself into a corner, so you're flailing wildly with the ad hominem attacks, giving up even the PRETENSE that you have something logical to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar
    Wow. I didn't realize you actually knew how to find the Constitution.

    Now, find the line in Article I, Section 8 that authorizes the Congress to abandon one of it's Constitutionally assigned duties.
    I just showed you where they have the ability to consent to the appointment of officials whose role is established under the law. This would include the Fed chairman.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar
    No. Until the socialists took over in 1932, they were depressions.
    The fact that you view it as a BAD thing that we only have minor recessions now, instead of depressions, is quite telling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar
    It's part of the problem.

    The Federal Reserve kept the interest rates low and drove the inflationary portion of it. That Idiot Carter did the rest of the damage by being an idiot and keeping business over-regulated.
    Then it doesn't make sense to blame the Fed. They were keeping interest rates low to stimulate the economy, which had a high unemployment at the time. They don't have any control over how much or how little business is regulated.
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