View Poll Results: What is the lesson to be learned from the 2009 election

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    3 17.65%
  • Good news for Republicans

    9 52.94%
  • Bad News for Democrats

    9 52.94%
  • Bad news for Republicans

    3 17.65%
  • Good news for liberals

    2 11.76%
  • Bad news for liberals

    7 41.18%
  • Good news for Conservatives

    8 47.06%
  • Bad news for Conservatives

    4 23.53%
  • Good news for moderates

    3 17.65%
  • Bad news for moderates

    5 29.41%
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    What was the 2009 election lesson

    Now that the results of the 2009 election are in, what is your personal spin on the election....was it bad news for Democrats/Republicans, good news...
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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

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    So why in what was clearly a Republican year did Hoffman lose? Well, there are several reasons and, yes, the Democratic victory was narrow, thinner than the five or so percent that went to withdrawn Republican nominee Scozzafava who herself endorsed the Democratic candidate. Still, the 23rd is a safely Republican, even conservative, district. In a year where the GOP racked up a 20% margin in Virginia and coasted easily in Jersey, a state in which Obama romped in 08 by 16%, what was the problem?

    Well I might as well say it social conservatism. America is a fiscally conservative country now perhaps more than ever, and with much justification but not a socially conservative one. No, I dont mean to say its socially liberal. Its not. Its socially laissez-faire (just as its mostly fiscally laissez-faire). Whether were pro-choice, pro-life or whatever we are, most of us want the government out of our bedrooms, just as we want it out of our wallets.

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    Roger L. Simon Election 2009: The Strange Case of NY23

    I think Roger Simon of Pajamas Media is saying lose the religious right, and the lesson is Republicans will win.

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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    I think Roger Simon of Pajamas Media is saying lose the religious right, and the lesson is Republicans will win.
    As much as I would like to agree....I don't think the Republicans can win without the evangelical/right-wing vote.
    To win...the GOP has to find a way to bring them into their fold while not alienating the moderates and independents. Its not an easy job for the GOP.
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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    I agree with Jay Cost's assessment. The conclusions we can draw are:

    1. The voters of Virginia declared a preference for Bob McDonnell over Creigh Deeds.
    2. The voters of New Jersey declared a preference for Chris Christie over Jon Corzine.
    3. The voters of New York's Twenty-Third Congressional District declared a preference for Bill Owens over Doug Hoffman.
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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    Corzine got his ass whupped hugely, and by extension the Messiah, who went to NJ six times to help. A 20 point swing in the polls, now solidly against the Messiah in NJ.

    An inexperienced no-name conservative third party candidate almost won that election, against the full political might of the corrupt DNC and without support from the corrupt RNC.

    Virginia is free at last, free at last, free at last. A 25 point swing in the polls, now solidly against the Messiah in NJ.

    Practically every "independent" voter is anti-Messiah now. That's amazingly good.

    And conservatives once again witnessed the treachery of the RINO in NY23.

    If the Tea Party folks can make the RINO extinct, they'll have done a true patriotic service for America.

    Overall, an excellent outcome.

    The disaster the Democrats saw in 2009 was much worse than their debacle in 1993, which presaged the turnover of the House in 1994 under their Rapist President.
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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    No vote...poor selections.
    The true losers are the American people who do not vote, who do not participate.
    Something is seriously wrong, our people must wake up....
    Should I walk around with a sign saying "vote" ??
    And I think this is worsening...

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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Corzine got his ass whupped hugely, and by extension the Messiah, who went to NJ six times to help. A 20 point swing in the polls, now solidly against the Messiah in NJ.

    An inexperienced no-name conservative third party candidate almost won that election, against the full political might of the corrupt DNC and without support from the corrupt RNC.

    Virginia is free at last, free at last, free at last. A 25 point swing in the polls, now solidly against the Messiah in NJ.

    Practically every "independent" voter is anti-Messiah now. That's amazingly good.

    And conservatives once again witnessed the treachery of the RINO in NY23.

    If the Tea Party folks can make the RINO extinct, they'll have done a true patriotic service for America.

    Overall, an excellent outcome.

    The disaster the Democrats saw in 2009 was much worse than their debacle in 1993, which presaged the turnover of the House in 1994 under their Rapist President.

    That's one spin on it.

    Another is that NY-23 proved that the Republican party is in serious trouble if they try to move further to the right and run more conservative candidates. If a conservative couldn't win in a district that has been safely Republican by a minimum 30 points for two decades, what hope do they think they have in the rest of the country?

    Loses of two governorships by Democrats - spells potential trouble for Democrats in 2010 as well. However, the Dems picked up 2 house seats in this election as well.
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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That's one spin on it.

    Another is that NY-23 proved that the Republican party is in serious trouble if they try to move further to the right and run more conservative candidates.
    In NY23 the GOP candidate was further to the left than the socialist Democrat.

    And it was a three-way race. You need to get off your turntable and discover what was really spinning.

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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    What was the lesson?

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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    The status of moderates was elevated from its very temporary silencing in both parties (we are talking about a matter of months-it was never anything long term).

    Republicans can have their two victories to make themselves feel better.

    Democrats have more potential supporters for healthcare reform efforts on their behalf.

    All in all, a benefit for everyone in one way or another.

    So, really, I don't understand how "RINOs" and "DINOs" are somehow eliminated from the equation, because they were not. Well, I suppose it allows partisans to somehow think that so they can have more mental masturbation material, until they discover that little has changed and they still need moderates of one flavor or another to tip themselves in the lead.
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