View Poll Results: What is the lesson to be learned from the 2009 election

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    3 17.65%
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    9 52.94%
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    9 52.94%
  • Bad news for Republicans

    3 17.65%
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    2 11.76%
  • Bad news for liberals

    7 41.18%
  • Good news for Conservatives

    8 47.06%
  • Bad news for Conservatives

    4 23.53%
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    3 17.65%
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    5 29.41%
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Thread: What was the 2009 election lesson

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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The religious right/evangelicals are basically two issue voters, potentially 3.

    Anti-gay rights and anti-abortion.
    You can carry both of these positions and not be an evangelical conservative; in fact, a majority of the country is against gay marriage, and views on abortion are wildly varied.

    They generally do not vote on any other issue if they have a candidate that will promote those two issues.
    That is a blatant generalization and I doubt you could prove it.

    Obama's election took a little out of the sail....because they thought that with another GOP President pushing their agenda, they could stack the Supreme Court.
    McCain was hardly a member of the so-called "religious right", and neither is a single Supreme Court Justice. Conservative =/= evangelical.

    With Obama having at least 1 more and potentially 2 more nominees within his first term, it is unlikely they will be able to accomplish this anytime soon.
    Still....they have indicated that they will stay home and not vote if the GOP candidate is not strongly in favor of this agenda. I'm not so sure that the GOP is willing to test them at their word.
    I don't think the agenda you speak of even exists.

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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    If you were to listen to everyone on the internet, then All of the Above are true.



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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    You can carry both of these positions and not be an evangelical conservative; in fact, a majority of the country is against gay marriage, and views on abortion are wildly varied.



    That is a blatant generalization and I doubt you could prove it.



    McCain was hardly a member of the so-called "religious right", and neither is a single Supreme Court Justice. Conservative =/= evangelical.



    I don't think the agenda you speak of even exists.
    Well you are certainly entitled to your opinion. I think a lot of other people would differ.

    Are most American's against gay marriage? Probably....but the numbers are shifting dramatically. Even many who are against it, are not adamantly against it. Many don't see it as a major issue worth exerting a lot of energy over. This is very different from the agenda of the evanagelical right-wing who actively push the anti-gay agenda.


    With abortion - again...I agree with you the views vary widely. However, you won't find the rabid anti-abortion agenda being pushed by the vast majority of those who oppose it. Again....its an issue but not THE issue. With evangelicals....this is THE issue and you see that over and over again.

    McCain was not a member of the religious right, however, if you watched McCain in the primaries he really started cowering to them and courting them.
    In doing so, he alienated a great deal of moderates and independents.
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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Dana....I honestly would like to hear your spin on it. I enjoy reading your posts and think you have a good perspective. Who do you think were the real winners/losers in this election.
    Neither side. New Jersey was a referendum on Corzine, and the future makeup of the state Supreme Court. Virginia has always voted for whichever party is not in power, and in NY23, a Democrat won in a district where the Conservative vote got split.

    There was a reason for all 3 of the results, but only hyperpartisans, whether Democratic or Republican, are going to claim these elections as something earth moving for their masters. If anything, I would call Virginia a shot across the bow of the Democratic party, but hardly a trend for the GOP. And the idea that NY23 is a trend for Democrats is laughable.
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